From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Javier Gonzalez <javier.gonz@samsung.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:59:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241011085904.GB4039@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241010122733.bv7vxemqnxr573pz@ArmHalley.local>
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 02:27:33PM +0200, Javier Gonzalez wrote:
[full quote snipped, it would be really helpful to only quote what you
actuall reference per the usual email rules]
>> Data placement by-file is based on that the lifetime of a file's data
>> blocks are strongly correlated. When a file is deleted, all its blocks
>> will be reclaimable at that point. This requires knowledge about the
>> data placement buckets and works really well without any hints
>> provided.
>
> But we need hints to put files together. I believe you do this already,
> as no placement protocol gives you unlimited separation.
The per-file temperature hints do a reasonable job for that. A fully
developed version of the separate write streams submitted by Kanchan
would probably do even better, but for now the per-file hints seem
to be enough.
> Maybe you can post some patches on the parts dedicated to the VFS level
> and user-space API (syscall or uring)?
It's just using the existing temperature hints.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-11 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <CGME20240930182052epcas5p37edefa7556b87c3fbb543275756ac736@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Kanchan Joshi
[not found] ` <CGME20240930182056epcas5p33f823c00caadf9388b509bafcad86f3d@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] nvme: enable FDP support Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CGME20240930182100epcas5p31a010c225f3c76aa4dc54fced32abd2a@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] block, fs: restore kiocb based write hint processing Kanchan Joshi
[not found] ` <CGME20240930182103epcas5p4c9e91ca3cdf20e900b1425ae45fef81d@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 14:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-17 14:58 ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:29 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-01 9:20 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-01 15:58 ` James R. Bergsten
2024-10-01 16:18 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 7:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:03 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:17 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:33 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-03 12:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:47 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-10-02 18:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 21:48 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-03 22:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 22:12 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03 22:17 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-04 6:21 ` Javier González
2024-10-04 6:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04 6:59 ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 11:29 ` Javier González
2024-10-08 12:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 22:14 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-04 5:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04 6:18 ` Javier González
2024-10-04 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04 6:52 ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 10:10 ` Javier González
2024-10-08 10:06 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-09 14:36 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10 6:40 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-10 7:13 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10 9:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 12:22 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11 8:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 12:21 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11 16:59 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-10 10:46 ` Hans Holmberg
[not found] ` <CGME20241010122734eucas1p1e20a5263a4d69db81b50b8b03608fad1@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2024-10-10 12:27 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11 8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-08 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 14:44 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-09 9:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 15:06 ` Keith Busch
[not found] ` <CGME20241010070738eucas1p2057209e5f669f37ca586ad4a619289ed@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2024-10-10 7:07 ` Javier González
2024-10-10 9:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 11:59 ` Javier González
2024-10-11 9:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 17:08 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-14 6:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 7:02 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14 7:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14 9:08 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14 11:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15 3:07 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-15 5:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 9:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 16:28 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-10-02 15:22 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 16:23 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 14:56 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:00 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03 0:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-15 5:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15 15:09 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-15 15:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 14:35 ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-17 15:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 15:44 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 15:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 16:06 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 16:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-17 16:23 ` Keith Busch
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