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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jinliang Zheng <alexjlzheng@gmail.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, adobriyan@gmail.com,
	alexjlzheng@tencent.com, brauner@kernel.org,
	flyingpeng@tencent.com, jack@suse.cz, joel.granados@kernel.org,
	kees@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Maintain the relative size of fs.file-max and fs.nr_open
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:59:55 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241124155955.GD3874922@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241124094813.1021293-1-alexjlzheng@tencent.com>

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 05:48:13PM +0800, Jinliang Zheng wrote:
> > 
> > Short version: there are 3 different notions -
> > 	1) file as a collection of data kept by filesystem. Such things as
> > contents, ownership, permissions, timestamps belong there.
> > 	2) IO channel used to access one of (1).  open(2) creates such;
> > things like current position in file, whether it's read-only or read-write
> > open, etc. belong there.  It does not belong to a process - after fork(),
> > ...
>
> I'm sorry that I don't know much about the implementation of UNIX, but
> specific to the implementation of Linux, struct file is more like a
> combination of what you said 1) and 2).

This is incorrect.  In Linux (and historical implementations of Unix)
struct file is precisely (2).  The struct file has a pointer to a
struct dentry, which in turn has a pointer to a struct inode.  So a
struct file *refers* to (1), but it is *not* (1).

       	    	     	     	       	     - Ted

      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-24 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-23 18:08 [PATCH 0/6] Maintain the relative size of fs.file-max and fs.nr_open Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] fs: fix proc_handler for sysctl_nr_open Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:11 ` [PATCH 2/6] fs: make files_stat globally visible Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:12 ` [PATCH 3/6] sysctl: refactor __do_proc_doulongvec_minmax() Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:12 ` [PATCH 4/6] sysctl: ensure files_stat.max_files is not less than sysctl_nr_open Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:13 ` [PATCH 5/6] sysctl: ensure sysctl_nr_open is not greater than files_stat.max_files Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:13 ` [PATCH 6/6] fs: synchronize the access of fs.file-max and fs.nr_open Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-23 18:27 ` [PATCH 0/6] Maintain the relative size " Al Viro
2024-11-23 19:32   ` Al Viro
2024-11-24  2:30     ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-24  9:48     ` Jinliang Zheng
2024-11-24 15:59       ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]

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