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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>
Cc: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Baokun Li <libaokun1@huawei.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] ext4: protect ext4_release_dquot against freezing
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:01:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241128120108.4cv23l6rcspzmtun@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87serc2bu5.fsf@gmail.com>

On Thu 28-11-24 10:28:58, Ritesh Harjani wrote:
> Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > Protect ext4_release_dquot against freezing so that we
> > don't try to start a transaction when FS is frozen, leading
> > to warnings.
> >
> > Further, avoid taking the freeze protection if a transaction
> > is already running so that we don't need end up in a deadlock
> > as described in
> >
> >   46e294efc355 ext4: fix deadlock with fs freezing and EA inodes
> >
> > Suggested-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > Signed-off-by: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>
> 
> Sorry for being late on this. Ideally, shouldn't it be the
> responsibility of higher level FS (ext4) to make sure that
> FS never freezes while there is pending work for releasing dquot
> structures and that it should also prevent any context where such dquot 
> structures gets added for release/delayed release. 
> 
> e.g. this is what FS takes care during freeze path i.e.
>   freeze_super() -> sync_fs -> ext4_sync_fs()-> dquot_writeback_dquots() -> flush_delayed_work() (now fixed)
> 
> Now coming to iput() case which Jan mentioned [1] which could still
> be called after FS have frozen. As I see we have a protection from FS
> freeze in the ext4_evict_path() right? So ideally we should never see

We don't if we go through:

ext4_evict_inode()
  if (inode->i_nlink) {
    truncate_inode_pages_final(&inode->i_data);
    goto no_delete;
  }
no_delete:
  ext4_clear_inode(inode)
    ...
    dquot_drop()

> dquot_drop() w/o fs freeze protection. And say, if the FS freezing immediately
> happened after we scheduled this delayed work (but before the work gets
> scheduled), then that will be taken care in the freeze_super() chain,
> where we will flush all the delayed work no? - which is what Patch-1 is
> fixing.
> 
> (There still might be an error handling path in ext4_evict_inode() ->
> ext4_clear_inode() which we don't freeze protect. I still need to take a
> closer look at that though).

It isn't error handling. It is a standard inode eviction path if the inode
isn't being deleted.

> So.. isn't this patch trying to hide the problem where FS failed to
> freeze protect some code path?

Well, it is kind of self-inflicted damage of ext4_dquot_release() because
it starts a transaction even if there will be nothing to do. We could add
checks to ext4_dquot_release() to start a transaction only if dquot
structure will need to be deleted but that's a layering violation because
it would have to make assumptions about how quota format code is going to
behave.

							Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-28 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-21 12:38 [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix generic/390 failure due to quota release after freeze Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-11-21 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] quota: flush quota_release_work upon quota writeback Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-11-26  8:47   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-26 14:28   ` Baokun Li
2024-11-29  8:00   ` Disha Goel
2024-11-21 12:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ext4: protect ext4_release_dquot against freezing Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-11-22  5:25   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-22  6:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-26  9:04   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-26 12:41     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-11-26 14:49   ` Baokun Li
2024-11-27  6:01     ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-12-03  8:29       ` Baokun Li
2024-12-16  9:11         ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2024-11-28  4:58   ` Ritesh Harjani
2024-11-28 12:01     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2025-03-06  6:30   ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2025-03-06 15:59     ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-21 12:48 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix generic/390 failure due to quota release after freeze Ojaswin Mujoo

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