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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	WangYuli <wangyuli@uniontech.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH] fs/pipe: Introduce a check to skip sleeping processes during pipe read/write
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:13:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241229131338.GD27491@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241229130543.GC27491@redhat.com>

Sorry for the noise...

and currently this is fine. But if we want to add the wq_has_sleeper()
checks into fs/pipe.c then pipe_poll() needs smp_mb() after it calls
poll_wait().

Agreed?

On 12/29, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 12/29, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> >
> > >I think that your patch (and the original patch from WangYuli) has the same
> > >proble with pipe_poll()->poll_wait()->__pollwait().
> >
> > What is the memory barrier for pipe_poll()?
> >
> > There is poll_wait()->__pollwait()->add_wait_queue()->spin_unlock(). thus
> > only store_release.
> >
> > And then READ_ONCE(), i.e. no memory barrier.
> >
> > Thus the CPU would be free to load pipe->head and pipe->tail before adding
> > the entry to the poll table.
> >
> > Correct?
>
> Yes, this was my thinking.
>
> See also my initial reply to WangYuli
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241226160007.GA11118@redhat.com/
>
> Do you agree?
>
> Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-29 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-25  9:42 [RESEND PATCH] fs/pipe: Introduce a check to skip sleeping processes during pipe read/write WangYuli
2024-12-25 13:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-25 13:53   ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 16:04     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-12-25 16:32       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 17:22         ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-12-25 17:41           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 15:42   ` WangYuli
2024-12-25 16:00     ` Willy Tarreau
2024-12-25 16:32       ` WangYuli
2024-12-25 16:56         ` Willy Tarreau
2024-12-26 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-26 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-26 20:11   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-26 20:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-26 20:57       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 15:54         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 16:43           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 18:39     ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-28 14:32       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 15:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 16:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 18:53             ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-29 11:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 16:45           ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-29 11:57             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-29 12:41               ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-29 13:05                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-29 13:13                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-12-29 19:54                     ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-30 15:38                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-31 11:14                         ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-31 19:38                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-31 20:24                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-31 22:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-01-02 13:57                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-04 21:15                         ` RFC: Checkpatch: Introduce list of functions that need memory barriers Manfred Spraul

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