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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
	Oliver Sang <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	Swapnil Sapkal <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>,
	WangYuli <wangyuli@uniontech.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] pipe: change pipe_write() to never add a zero-sized buffer
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 19:44:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250209184427.GA27435@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whirZek1fZQ_gYGHZU71+UKDMa_MYWB5RzhP_owcjAopw@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/09, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 at 10:02, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Could you explain what do you think should I do if I keep this check?
> > make pipe_buf_assert_len() return void? or just replace it with
> > WARN_ON_ONCE(!buf->len) in its callers?
>
> Just replace it with WARN_ON_ONCE() in any place where you really
> think it's needed.

OK, will do.

> IOW, why warn for a case that isn't a problem, and you're only making
> it a problem by thinking it is?

Again, lets look eat_empty_buffer().

The comment says "maybe it's empty" but how/why can this happen ?

The changelog for d1a819a2ec2d3 ("splice: teach splice pipe reading
about empty pipe buffers") says "you can trigger it by doing a write
to a pipe that fails" but if someone looks at anon_pipe_write() after
1/2 this case is not possible.

And if eat_empty_buffer() flushes the buffer and updates pipe->tail,
why doesn't it wake the writers?

WARN_ON_ONCE() makes it clear that we do not expect !buf->len == 0,
and the kernel will complain if it does happen.

So unless you have a strong opinion, I'd prefer to keep it for now.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-09 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-09 15:07 [PATCH 0/2] pipe: change pipe_write() to never add a zero-sized buffer Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-09 15:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-09 17:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-09 18:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-09 18:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-09 18:44         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-02-09 18:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-09 19:15             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-09 23:39               ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-10 17:22                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-10 17:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-10 18:36                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-11  3:59                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] splice: add some pipe_buf_assert_len() checks Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-10 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] pipe: change pipe_write() to never add a zero-sized buffer Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-10 12:52 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Christian Brauner

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