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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Daan De Meyer <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>,
	Mike Yuan <me@yhndnzj.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 06/10] pidfs: allow to retrieve exit information
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 16:53:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250302155346.GD2664@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250228-work-pidfs-kill_on_last_close-v1-6-5bd7e6bb428e@kernel.org>

On 02/28, Christian Brauner wrote:
>
> Some tools like systemd's jounral need to retrieve the exit and cgroup
> information after a process has already been reaped.
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

But unless I am totally confused do_exit() calls pidfd_exit() even
before exit_notify(), the exiting task is not even zombie yet. It
will reaped only when it passes exit_notify() and its parent does
wait().



And what about the multi-threaded case? Suppose the main thread
does sys_exit(0) and it has alive sub-threads.

In this case pidfd_info() will report kinfo.exit_code = 0.
And this is probably fine if (file->f_flags & PIDFD_THREAD) != 0.

But what if this file was created without PIDFD_THREAD? If another
thread does exit_group(1) after that, the process's exit code is
1 << 8, but it can't be retrieved.



Finally, sys_execve(). Suppose we have a main thread L and a
sub-thread T.

T execs and kill the leader L. L exits and populates
pidfs_i(inode)->exit_info.

T calls exchange_tids() in de_thread() and becomes the new leader
with the same (old) pid.

Now, T is very much alive, but pidfs_i(inode)->exit_info != NULL.

Or I am totally confused?



> +	exit_info = READ_ONCE(pidfs_i(inode)->exit_info);
> +	if (exit_info) {
> +		/*
> +		 * TODO: Oleg, I didn't see a reason for putting
> +		 * retrieval of the exit status of a task behind some
> +		 * form of permission check.

Neither me.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-02 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-28 12:44 [PATCH RFC 00/10] pidfs: provide information after task has been reaped Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 01/10] pidfs: switch to copy_struct_to_user() Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 02/10] pidfd: rely on automatic cleanup in __pidfd_prepare() Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 03/10] pidfs: move setting flags into pidfs_alloc_file() Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 13:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-02 15:59     ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 16:05       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-02 16:29         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 04/10] pidfs: add inode allocation Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 05/10] pidfs: record exit code and cgroupid at exit Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 15:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 06/10] pidfs: allow to retrieve exit information Christian Brauner
2025-03-02  2:40   ` Mike Yuan
2025-03-02 12:33     ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-03-02 16:29     ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 17:21       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-02 18:56         ` Christian Brauner
2025-03-02 20:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03  9:06             ` Lennart Poettering
2025-03-03 11:32               ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 07/10] selftests/pidfd: fix header inclusion Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 08/10] pidfs/selftests: ensure correct headers for ioctl handling Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 09/10] selftests/pidfd: move more defines to common header Christian Brauner
2025-02-28 12:44 ` [PATCH RFC 10/10] selftests/pidfd: add PIDFD_INFO_EXIT tests Christian Brauner

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