From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
"Sapkal, Swapnil" <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 12:44:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250305114433.GA28112@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305045617.3038-1-hdanton@sina.com>
Hi Hillf,
again, I am not sure we understand each other, at least me...
On 03/05, Hillf Danton wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:49:09 +0100 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> >
> > Of course! Again, whatever the woken writer checks in pipe_writable()
> > lockless, another writer can make pipe_full() true again.
> >
> > But why do we care? Why do you think that the change you propose makes
>
> Because of the hang reported.
The hang happened because pipe_writable() could wrongly return false
when the buffer is not full.
Afaics, the Prateek's or Linus's fix solve this problem, and this is
all we need.
> > more sense than the fix from Prateek or the (already merged) Linus's fix?
> >
> See the loop in ___wait_event(),
>
> for (;;) {
> prepare_to_wait_event();
>
> // flip
> if (condition)
> break;
>
> schedule();
> }
I will assume that this "// flip" means the case I described above:
before this writer checks the condition, another writer comes and
increments pipe->head.
> After wakeup, waiter will sleep again if condition flips false on the waker
> side before waiter checks condition, even if condition is atomic, no?
Yes, but in this case pipe_full() == true is correct, this writer can
safely sleep.
Even if flips again and becomes false right after the writer called
pipe_writable().
Note that it checks the condition after set_current_state(INTERRUPTIBLE)
and it is still on the pipe->wr_wait->head list.
The 2nd "flip" is only possible if some reader flushes another buffer
and updates pipe->tail, and in this case it will wake this writer again.
So I still can't understand your concerns, sorry.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-05 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-02 14:07 [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-02 16:20 ` WangYuli
2025-01-02 16:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-04 8:42 ` Christian Brauner
2025-01-31 9:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-01-31 13:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-31 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 17:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-02 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 19:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-04 11:17 ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-03 9:05 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-04 13:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24 9:26 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-24 14:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-25 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-25 11:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 5:55 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 11:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 17:56 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 13:00 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-03 15:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:18 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-02-26 13:18 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 13:21 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 17:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 16:18 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-27 16:34 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 21:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28 5:58 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-28 14:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28 16:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 9:46 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-03-03 14:37 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 14:51 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 15:31 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:54 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 18:33 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 19:06 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 20:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 5:31 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 6:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 13:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 22:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05 4:40 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-05 4:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 13:51 ` [PATCH] fs/pipe: Read pipe->{head,tail} atomically outside pipe->mutex K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 18:36 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-04 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-05 15:31 ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 9:48 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 14:42 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 8:35 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 9:28 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 11:39 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] pipe: Convert pipe->{head,tail} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs/pipe: Limit the slots in pipe_resize_ring() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:26 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] fs/splice: Atomically read pipe->{head,tail} in opipe_prep() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] treewide: pipe: Convert all references to pipe->{head,tail,max_usage,ring_size} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 12:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:33 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 14:27 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-03 18:32 ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 5:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 16:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 5:06 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 5:35 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 10:29 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 12:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 23:35 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 23:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05 4:56 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-05 11:44 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-03-05 22:46 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-06 9:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 6:08 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07 6:24 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-07 10:46 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07 11:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 12:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 23:56 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-09 14:01 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-09 17:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 10:49 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 11:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 11:37 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 12:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 23:33 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-11 0:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-11 6:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20250311112922.3342-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-11 11:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 11:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 12:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 13:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 15:59 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 16:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
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