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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/32] Live Update Orchestrator
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:26:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250625232653.GJ369@kvack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250625231838.1897085-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>

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On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:17:47PM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> This series introduces the LUO, a kernel subsystem designed to
> facilitate live kernel updates with minimal downtime,
> particularly in cloud delplyoments aiming to update without fully
> disrupting running virtual machines.
> 
> This series builds upon KHO framework by adding programmatic
> control over KHO's lifecycle and leveraging KHO for persisting LUO's
> own metadata across the kexec boundary. The git branch for this series
> can be found at:
> 
> https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-liveupdate/tree/luo/v1
> 
> Changelog from rfc-v2:
> - Addressed review comments from Mike Rapoport, Pratyush Yadav,
>   David Matlack
> - Moved everything under kernel/liveupdate including KHO.
> - Added a number fixes to KHO that were discovered.
> - luo_files is not a registred as a subsystem.
> - Added sessions support to preserved files.
> - Added support for memfd (Pratyush Yadav)
> - Added libluo (proposed as RFC) (Pratyush Yadav)
> - Removed notifiers from KHO (Mike Rapoport)
> 
> What is Live Update?
> Live Update is a kexec based reboot process where selected kernel
> resources (memory, file descriptors, and eventually devices) are kept
> operational or their state preserved across a kernel transition. For
> certain resources, DMA and interrupt activity might continue with
> minimal interruption during the kernel reboot.
> 
> LUO provides a framework for coordinating live updates. It features:
> State Machine: Manages the live update process through states:
> NORMAL, PREPARED, FROZEN, UPDATED.
> 
> KHO Integration:
> 
> LUO programmatically drives KHO's finalization and abort sequences.
> KHO's debugfs interface is now optional configured via
> CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG.
> 
> LUO preserves its own metadata via KHO's kho_add_subtree and
> kho_preserve_phys() mechanisms.
> 
> Subsystem Participation: A callback API liveupdate_register_subsystem()
> allows kernel subsystems (e.g., KVM, IOMMU, VFIO, PCI) to register
> handlers for LUO events (PREPARE, FREEZE, FINISH, CANCEL) and persist a
> u64 payload via the LUO FDT.
> 
> File Descriptor Preservation: Infrastructure
> liveupdate_register_filesystem, luo_register_file, luo_retrieve_file to
> allow specific types of file descriptors (e.g., memfd, vfio) to be
> preserved and restored.
> 
> Handlers for specific file types can be registered to manage their
> preservation and restoration, storing a u64 payload in the LUO FDT.
> 
> User-space Interface:
> 
> ioctl (/dev/liveupdate): The primary control interface for
> triggering LUO state transitions (prepare, freeze, finish, cancel)
> and managing the preservation/restoration of file descriptors.
> Access requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> 
> sysfs (/sys/kernel/liveupdate/state): A read-only interface for
> monitoring the current LUO state. This allows userspace services to
> track progress and coordinate actions.
> 
> Selftests: Includes kernel-side hooks and userspace selftests to
> verify core LUO functionality, particularly subsystem registration and
> basic state transitions.
> 
> LUO State Machine and Events:
> 
> NORMAL:   Default operational state.
> PREPARED: Initial preparation complete after LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE
>           event. Subsystems have saved initial state.
> FROZEN:   Final "blackout window" state after LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE
>           event, just before kexec. Workloads must be suspended.
> UPDATED:  Next kernel has booted via live update. Awaiting restoration
>           and LIVEUPDATE_FINISH.
> 
> Events:
> LIVEUPDATE_PREPARE: Prepare for reboot, serialize state.
> LIVEUPDATE_FREEZE:  Final opportunity to save state before kexec.
> LIVEUPDATE_FINISH:  Post-reboot cleanup in the next kernel.
> LIVEUPDATE_CANCEL:  Abort prepare or freeze, revert changes.
> 
> RFC v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250320024011.2995837-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com
> RFC v2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250515182322.117840-1-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com/
> 
> Changyuan Lyu (1):
>   kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges
> 
> Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) (1):
>   kho: drop notifiers
> 
> Pasha Tatashin (22):
>   kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep
>   kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO
>   kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error
>   kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel
>   kho: make debugfs interface optional
>   kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort
>   liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate
>   liveupdate: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator
>   liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO
>   liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration
>   liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks
>   liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs
>   liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks
>   liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface
>   liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring
>   reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec
>   liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: session-based file descriptor
>     tracking
>   kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate
>   liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration
>   selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests
>   docs: add luo documentation
>   MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry
> 
> Pratyush Yadav (8):
>   mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags
>   mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping
>   mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h
>   luo: allow preserving memfd
>   docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO
>   tools: introduce libluo
>   libluo: introduce luoctl
>   libluo: add tests
> 
>  .../ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate       |  51 +
>  Documentation/admin-guide/index.rst           |   1 +
>  Documentation/admin-guide/liveupdate.rst      |  16 +
>  Documentation/core-api/index.rst              |   1 +
>  Documentation/core-api/kho/concepts.rst       |   2 +-
>  Documentation/core-api/liveupdate.rst         |  57 ++
>  Documentation/mm/index.rst                    |   1 +
>  Documentation/mm/memfd_preservation.rst       | 138 +++
>  Documentation/userspace-api/index.rst         |   1 +
>  .../userspace-api/ioctl/ioctl-number.rst      |   2 +
>  Documentation/userspace-api/liveupdate.rst    |  25 +
>  MAINTAINERS                                   |  20 +-
>  include/linux/kexec_handover.h                |  53 +-
>  include/linux/liveupdate.h                    | 235 +++++
>  include/linux/shmem_fs.h                      |  23 +
>  include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h               | 265 +++++
>  init/Kconfig                                  |   2 +
>  kernel/Kconfig.kexec                          |  14 -
>  kernel/Makefile                               |   2 +-
>  kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig                     |  90 ++
>  kernel/liveupdate/Makefile                    |  13 +
>  kernel/{ => liveupdate}/kexec_handover.c      | 556 +++++-----
>  kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_debug.c      | 222 ++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_internal.h   |  45 +
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c                  | 525 ++++++++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_files.c                 | 946 ++++++++++++++++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h              |  47 +
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_ioctl.c                 | 192 ++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_selftests.c             | 344 +++++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_selftests.h             |  84 ++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_subsystems.c            | 420 ++++++++
>  kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c                 |  92 ++
>  kernel/reboot.c                               |   4 +
>  mm/Makefile                                   |   1 +
>  mm/internal.h                                 |   6 +
>  mm/memblock.c                                 |  56 +-
>  mm/memfd_luo.c                                | 501 ++++++++++
>  mm/shmem.c                                    |  46 +-
>  tools/lib/luo/LICENSE                         | 165 +++
>  tools/lib/luo/Makefile                        |  45 +
>  tools/lib/luo/README.md                       | 166 +++
>  tools/lib/luo/cli/.gitignore                  |   1 +
>  tools/lib/luo/cli/Makefile                    |  18 +
>  tools/lib/luo/cli/luoctl.c                    | 178 ++++
>  tools/lib/luo/include/libluo.h                | 128 +++
>  tools/lib/luo/include/liveupdate.h            | 265 +++++
>  tools/lib/luo/libluo.c                        | 203 ++++
>  tools/lib/luo/tests/.gitignore                |   1 +
>  tools/lib/luo/tests/Makefile                  |  18 +
>  tools/lib/luo/tests/test.c                    | 848 ++++++++++++++++
>  tools/testing/selftests/Makefile              |   1 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/.gitignore |   1 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/Makefile   |   7 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/config     |   6 +
>  .../testing/selftests/liveupdate/liveupdate.c | 356 +++++++
>  55 files changed, 7091 insertions(+), 415 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-kernel-liveupdate
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/admin-guide/liveupdate.rst
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/core-api/liveupdate.rst
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/mm/memfd_preservation.rst
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/liveupdate.rst
>  create mode 100644 include/linux/liveupdate.h
>  create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/liveupdate.h
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/Kconfig
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/Makefile
>  rename kernel/{ => liveupdate}/kexec_handover.c (74%)
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_debug.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover_internal.h
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_files.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_ioctl.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_selftests.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_selftests.h
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_subsystems.c
>  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_sysfs.c
>  create mode 100644 mm/memfd_luo.c
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/LICENSE
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/Makefile
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/README.md
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/cli/.gitignore
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/cli/Makefile
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/cli/luoctl.c
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/include/libluo.h
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/include/liveupdate.h
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/libluo.c
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/tests/.gitignore
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/tests/Makefile
>  create mode 100644 tools/lib/luo/tests/test.c
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/.gitignore
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/Makefile
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/config
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/liveupdate.c
> 
> -- 
> 2.50.0.727.gbf7dc18ff4-goog
> 

-- 
"Thought is the essence of where you are now."

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-25 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-25 23:17 [PATCH v1 00/32] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 01/32] kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 02/32] kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 03/32] kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:56   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-23 14:39     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 04/32] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 05/32] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 06/32] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 07/32] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 08/32] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 09/32] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 10/32] liveupdate: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 11/32] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:17 ` [PATCH v1 12/32] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 13/32] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 14/32] liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 15/32] liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 16/32] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 17/32] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-26  0:29   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-23 13:53     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 18/32] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 19/32] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: session-based file descriptor tracking Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 20/32] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 21/32] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-26  0:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-23 13:55     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 22/32] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 23/32] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 24/32] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 25/32] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-26 13:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-23 14:08     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 26/32] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 27/32] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 28/32] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [PATCH v1 29/32] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-26  2:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [RFC v1 30/32] tools: introduce libluo Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [RFC v1 31/32] libluo: introduce luoctl Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:18 ` [RFC v1 32/32] libluo: add tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 23:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2025-06-25 23:44   ` [PATCH v1 00/32] Live Update Orchestrator pasha.tatashin
2025-06-25 23:56     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2025-07-04 17:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 21:27       ` Pasha Tatashin

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