From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 20/21] __dentry_kill(): new locking scheme
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 22:32:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250707213214.GM1880847@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKPOu+8zjtLkjYzCCVyyC80YgekMws4vGOvnPLjvUiQ6zWaqaA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 11:06:06PM +0200, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:59 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > Umm... Note that further in that loop we'll be actively stealing the stuff from that
> > shrink list that hasn't gotten to __dentry_kill(). Does your busy loop go into
> > if (data.victim) after the second d_walk()? IOW, does it manage to pull anything out
> > of that shrink list?
>
> No, I traced this, there is never a "data.victim" because none of the
> dentries has DCACHE_SHRINK_LIST. "data.found" is only ever incremented
> once (per loop iteration) because a "dead" lockref was found. The
> second d_walk() doesn't find anything because it doesn't look for dead
> (dying) dentries. You added that check only to the first call (only to
> select_collect(), but not to select_collect2()).
>
> I think we're getting closer to the point I was trying to make :-)
The second d_walk() does not have the if (!data.found) break; after it.
So if your point is that we should ignore these and bail out as soon as we
reach that state, we are not getting any closer to it.
The second d_walk() is specifically about the stuff already in some other
thread's shrink list. If it finds more than that, all the better, but the
primary goal is to make some progress in case if there's something in
another thread's shrink list they are yet to get around to evicting.
Again, what would you have it do? The requirement is to take out everything
that has no busy descendents.
BTW, is that the same dentry all along in your reproducer? Or does it switch
to a different dentry after a while?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-07 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-24 6:02 [RFC][PATCHSET v3] simplifying fast_dput(), dentry_kill() et.al Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] switch nfsd_client_rmdir() to use of simple_recursive_removal() Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] coda_flag_children(): cope with dentries turning negative Al Viro
2023-11-24 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-24 22:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] dentry: switch the lists of children to hlist Al Viro
2023-11-24 7:44 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-24 7:55 ` Al Viro
2023-11-24 8:02 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] centralize killing dentry from shrink list Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] shrink_dentry_list(): no need to check that dentry refcount is marked dead Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] fast_dput(): having ->d_delete() is not reason to delay refcount decrement Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] fast_dput(): handle underflows gracefully Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] fast_dput(): new rules for refcount Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] __dput_to_list(): do decrement of refcount in the callers Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] make retain_dentry() neutral with respect to refcounting Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] __dentry_kill(): get consistent rules for victim's refcount Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] dentry_kill(): don't bother with retain_dentry() on slow path Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] Call retain_dentry() with refcount 0 Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] fold the call of retain_dentry() into fast_dput() Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] don't try to cut corners in shrink_lock_dentry() Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] fold dentry_kill() into dput() Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] to_shrink_list(): call only if refcount is 0 Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] switch select_collect{,2}() to use of to_shrink_list() Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] d_prune_aliases(): use a shrink list Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] __dentry_kill(): new locking scheme Al Viro
2025-07-07 17:20 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 17:29 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 17:43 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 18:00 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 18:11 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 19:31 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 20:00 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 20:31 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 20:39 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 20:49 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 20:52 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 20:59 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 21:06 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 21:32 ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-07-07 21:47 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 22:19 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 22:37 ` Al Viro
2025-07-08 4:45 ` Max Kellermann
2025-07-07 22:26 ` Al Viro
2023-11-24 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] retain_dentry(): introduce a trimmed-down lockless variant Al Viro
2023-11-24 21:28 ` [RFC][PATCHSET v3] simplifying fast_dput(), dentry_kill() et.al Linus Torvalds
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