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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: John Groves <John@groves.net>
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Subject: Re: [RFC V2 11/18] famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opts
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 22:54:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250712055405.GK2672029@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ttjh3gqk3fmykwrb7dg6xaqhkpxk7g773fkvuzvbdlefimpseg@l5ermgxixeen>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 10:28:20AM -0500, John Groves wrote:
> On 25/07/08 08:59PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:50:25PM -0500, John Groves wrote:
> > > * -o shadow=<shadowpath>
> > 
> > What is a shadow?
> > 
> > > * -o daxdev=<daxdev>
> 
> Derp - OK, that's a stale commit message. Here is the one for the -next
> version of this patch:
> 
>     famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opt: -o shadow=<shadowpath>
> 
>     The shadow path is a (usually tmpfs) file system area used by the famfs 
>     user space to commuicate with the famfs fuse server. There is a minor 
>     dilemma that the user space tools must be able to resolve from a mount 
>     point path to a shadow path. The shadow path is exposed via /proc/mounts, 
>     but otherwise not used by the kernel. User space gets the shadow path 
>     from /proc/mounts...

Ah.  A service directory, of sorts.

> > And, uh, if there's a FUSE_GET_DAXDEV command, then what does this mount
> > option do?  Pre-populate the first element of that set?
> > 
> > --D
> > 
> 
> I took out -o daxdev, but had failed to update the commit msg.
> 
> The logic is this: The general model requires the FUSE_GET_DAXDEV message /
> response, so passing in the primary daxdev as a -o arg creates two ways to
> do the same thing.
> 
> The only initial heartburn about this was one could imagine a case where a
> mount happens, but no I/O happens for a while so the mount could "succeed",
> only to fail later if the primary daxdev could not be accessed.
> 
> But this can't happen with famfs, because the mount procedure includes 
> creating "meta files" - .meta/.superblock and .meta/.log and accessing them
> immediately. So it is guaranteed that FUSE_GET_DAXDEV will be sent right away,
> and if it fails, the mount will be unwound.

<nod> 

--D

> Thanks Darrick!
> John
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-12  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-03 18:50 [RFC V2 00/18] famfs: port into fuse John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 01/18] dev_dax_iomap: Move dax_pgoff_to_phys() from device.c to bus.c John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 02/18] dev_dax_iomap: Add fs_dax_get() func to prepare dax for fs-dax usage John Groves
2025-07-04 10:39   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-04 12:54     ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 03/18] dev_dax_iomap: Save the kva from memremap John Groves
2025-07-04 11:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 04/18] dev_dax_iomap: Add dax_operations for use by fs-dax on devdax John Groves
2025-07-04 12:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-05 22:56     ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 05/18] dev_dax_iomap: export dax_dev_get() John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 06/18] dev_dax_iomap: (ignore!) Drop poisoned page warning in fs/dax.c John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 07/18] famfs_fuse: magic.h: Add famfs magic numbers John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 08/18] famfs_fuse: Kconfig John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 09/18] famfs_fuse: Update macro s/FUSE_IS_DAX/FUSE_IS_VIRTIO_DAX/ John Groves
2025-07-04  8:44   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 10/18] famfs_fuse: Basic fuse kernel ABI enablement for famfs John Groves
2025-07-03 22:45   ` John Groves
2025-07-07 17:32     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-04  7:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 13:39     ` John Groves
2025-07-07 17:39       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-08 12:02         ` John Groves
2025-07-09  1:53           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11  1:32             ` John Groves
2025-07-12  4:49               ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-11 18:30               ` John Groves
2025-08-12 16:37                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-13 13:07                   ` John Groves
2025-08-14 17:16                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 11/18] famfs_fuse: Basic famfs mount opts John Groves
2025-07-09  3:59   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11 15:28     ` John Groves
2025-07-12  5:54       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-08-14 10:37         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 14:39           ` John Groves
2025-08-14 15:19             ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 23:52               ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 12/18] famfs_fuse: Plumb the GET_FMAP message/response John Groves
2025-07-04  8:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 20:30     ` John Groves
2025-07-05  0:06       ` John Groves
2025-07-05  7:58         ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:17           ` John Groves
2025-07-09  4:27   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-11 13:46     ` John Groves
2025-08-14 13:36   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 14:36     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 18:20       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 15:06         ` John Groves
2025-08-19 21:55           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 16:53       ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:13         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 18:05     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-16 15:00       ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:17         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15  0:38     ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 13/18] famfs_fuse: Create files with famfs fmaps John Groves
2025-07-04  9:01   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:27     ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 14/18] famfs_fuse: GET_DAXDEV message and daxdev_table John Groves
2025-07-04 13:20   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-06 17:07     ` John Groves
2025-08-14 13:58   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 17:19     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 18:25       ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 18:55         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-14 19:19           ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-16 16:22         ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:32           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 16:38     ` John Groves
2025-08-19 22:34       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 15/18] famfs_fuse: Plumb dax iomap and fuse read/write/mmap John Groves
2025-07-04  9:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-05 19:44     ` John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 16/18] famfs_fuse: Add holder_operations for dax notify_failure() John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 17/18] famfs_fuse: Add famfs metadata documentation John Groves
2025-07-03 18:50 ` [RFC V2 18/18] famfs_fuse: Add documentation John Groves
2025-07-04  0:27   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04  2:22     ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-07-04  3:53       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 18:58         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-04 23:29           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04 23:43             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-05  1:11               ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-04  6:09   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-07-04  8:27   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-04 23:36     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-07-03 18:56 ` [RFC V2 00/18] famfs: port into fuse John Groves
2025-07-09  3:26   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-07-11  1:18     ` John Groves

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