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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	fsverity@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC DRAFT DOESNOTBUILD] inode: free up more space
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 10:32:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250718083206.GA23501@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250718-funkkontakt-gehrock-c78ddcf4e009@brauner>

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 10:24:47AM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> We can't just keep accumulating more and more stuff in our core
> structures. The bpf people are breathing down our neck to put more
> things in struct inode and I'm sure the next thingamabob is already in
> the works and we need a way to push such stuff out of core struct inode.

Agreed.  And as mentioned I'like to think even further and avoid
having these optional bits in the fs inode unconditionally if there
isn't a good reason for that.  I mentioned quotas before, but an even
more extreme case is fsverity.  If I understand the fsverity use case
correctly it is usually used for a very small number of files in the
system only, and you'd usually do bulk reads from them.  So instead of
bloating the inode, be that the generic one or that of the file systems
that use it, why not have a global rhastable index by the inode address
to look it up?  Compared to the actual hash generation and verification
a lockless hashlookup is complete noise, but we'll save a lot of
memory.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-18  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-15 14:35 [PATCH RFC DRAFT DOESNOTBUILD] inode: free up more space Christian Brauner
2025-07-15 14:52 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-15 16:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-16 12:53   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-16 13:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-17  7:48     ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-17  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-17 15:55         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-16  9:15 ` Jan Kara
2025-07-16  9:50   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-16 11:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-16 12:19   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-16 12:38     ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-16 14:08       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-16 14:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-17  8:32           ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-17 10:54             ` Jan Kara
2025-07-17 11:40               ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-17 11:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-17 12:57     ` Jan Kara
2025-07-18  8:24       ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-18  8:32         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-07-18  8:58           ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-18 16:04 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-18 17:11   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-21  6:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-21 23:55     ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-22  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-22  7:52       ` Jan Kara
2025-07-22 12:57         ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 00/13] Move fscrypt and fsverity out of struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 01/13] fs: add fscrypt offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 02/13] fs/crypto: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 03/13] ext4: move fscrypt to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 04/13] ubifs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 05/13] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 06/13] ceph: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 07/13] fs: drop i_crypt_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 08/13] fs: add fsverity offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 09/13] fs/verity: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 10/13] btrfs: move fsverity to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 11/13] ext4: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 12/13] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 12:57           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 13/13] fs: drop i_verity_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 13:09           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 00/13] Move fscrypt and fsverity out of " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27             ` [PATCH v3 " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 01/13] fs: add fscrypt offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 20:02                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23  7:48                   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-23  3:49                 ` Al Viro
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 02/13] fs/crypto: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 03/13] ext4: move fscrypt to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 20:07                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23  8:59                   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 04/13] ubifs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 05/13] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 06/13] ceph: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 20:14                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23  8:58                   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 07/13] fs: drop i_crypt_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 20:19                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23  8:52                   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 08/13] fs: add fsverity offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-23  3:53                 ` Al Viro
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 09/13] fs/verity: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 20:25                 ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23  8:55                   ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 10/13] btrfs: move fsverity to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 11/13] ext4: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 12/13] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 19:27               ` [PATCH v3 13/13] fs: drop i_verity_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57               ` [PATCH v4 00/15] Move fscrypt and fsverity out of " Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] fs: add fscrypt offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] fs/crypto: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:29                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-25  4:01                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] ext4: move fscrypt to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:32                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] ubifs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] ceph: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:34                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-25  8:15                     ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] fs: drop i_crypt_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:38                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] fscrypt: rephrase documentation and comments Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:35                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] fs: add fsverity offset Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:45                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] fs/verity: use accessors Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] btrfs: move fsverity to filesystem inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] ext4: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] f2fs: " Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] fs: drop i_verity_info from struct inode Christian Brauner
2025-07-25  0:43                   ` Eric Biggers
2025-07-23 10:57                 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] fsverity: rephrase documentation and comments Christian Brauner
2025-07-22 13:50           ` [PATCH RFC DRAFT v2 00/13] Move fscrypt and fsverity out of struct inode Jeff Layton

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