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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fuse: keep inode->i_blkbits constant
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 09:45:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250814164539.GP7942@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpeguN_Be4q0jxoS28zpd4Y8Ye6kqMhspAvJ=tuba97dPVVg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:24:36AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 at 22:44, Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > My understanding is that it's because in that path it uses cached stat
> > values instead of fetching with another statx call to the server so it
> > has to reflect the blocksize the server previously set. It took me a
> > while to realize that the blocksize the server reports to the client
> > is unrelated to whatever blocksize the kernel internally uses for the
> > inode since the kernel doesn't do any block i/o for fuse; the commit
> > message in commit 0e9663ee452ff ("fuse: add blksize field to
> > fuse_attr") says the blocksize attribute is if "the filesystem might
> > want to give a hint to the app about the optimal I/O size".
> 
> Right, that's what POSIX says:
> 
>   st_blksize A file system-specific preferred I/O block size for
>                        this object. In some file system types, this may
>                        vary from file to file.

Ahahaha yes, I forgot about that.  Regular filesystems can set i_blkbits
to whatever granularity they want and it persists until eviction, and if
they want to trick userspace they set st_blksize to something else.
Kind of like how XFS rounds that up to PAGE_SIZE for 1k fsblock
filesystems.

Now I see what Joanne meant about it taking a while to wrap her head
around i_blkbits vs. st_blksize.  Thanks for pointing that out. :)

--D

> Thanks,
> Miklos
> 

      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-14 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07 17:50 [PATCH v2] fuse: keep inode->i_blkbits constant Joanne Koong
2025-08-08 13:47 ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-12  8:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-12 16:58   ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-12 19:59   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-12 20:44     ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-13  8:24       ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-14 16:45         ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]

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