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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Do we need an opt-in for file systems use of hw atomic writes?
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 16:45:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250819144545.GA18364@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819144347.GC7942@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 07:43:47AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> What is the likelihood of convincing the nvme standards folks to add a
> new command for write-untorn that doesn't just silently fail if you get
> the parameters wrong?

In my experience that depends mostly on how much a big customers for
NVMe hardware is asking for it.  Hint:  while Oracle isn't in the
absolute top tier of the influence scale it probably is just below.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-19 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-14 13:17 Do we need an opt-in for file systems use of hw atomic writes? Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-14 13:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-14 13:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-14 16:04     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-15  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15  3:22     ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-07-15  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 12:45         ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-07-14 13:39 ` John Garry
2025-07-14 13:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-14 15:53     ` John Garry
2025-07-15  6:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15  8:42         ` John Garry
2025-07-15  9:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 11:42             ` John Garry
2025-08-19 13:39               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-19 14:36                 ` John Garry
2025-08-19 14:43                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-19 14:45                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-08-21 14:01               ` Keith Busch
2025-07-15 10:02         ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-15 11:29           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 12:20             ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-15 11:58           ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-07-14 20:53 ` Dave Chinner
2025-07-15  6:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-15 20:56 ` Keith Busch
2025-07-16  5:50   ` Nilay Shroff

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