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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, bernd@bsbernd.com, neal@gompa.dev,
	John@groves.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	joannelkoong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/23] fuse: add an ioctl to add new iomap devices
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:15:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250821161510.GN7942@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgPOARcEq+p6p0NsBSC9GQp3egHViFeniR=Kc2GpQBCDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:09:29AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 2:54 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org>
> >
> > Add an ioctl that allows fuse servers to register block devices for use
> > with iomap.  This is (for now) separate from the backing file open/close
> > ioctl (despite using the same struct) to keep the codepaths separate.
> 
> Is it though? I'm pretty sure this commit does not add a new ioctl
> and reuses the same one (which is fine by me).

Oops, stale message. :(

<snip>

> > diff --git a/fs/fuse/backing.c b/fs/fuse/backing.c
> > index c128bed95a76b8..c63990254649ca 100644
> > --- a/fs/fuse/backing.c
> > +++ b/fs/fuse/backing.c
> > @@ -187,10 +193,13 @@ int fuse_backing_close(struct fuse_conn *fc, int backing_id)
> >          * error code will be passed up.  EBUSY is the default.
> >          */
> >         passthrough_err = fuse_passthrough_backing_close(fc, fb);
> > +       iomap_err = fuse_iomap_backing_close(fc, fb);
> >
> >         if (refcount_read(&fb->count) > 1) {
> >                 if (passthrough_err)
> >                         err = passthrough_err;
> > +               if (!err && iomap_err)
> > +                       err = iomap_err;
> >                 if (!err)
> >                         err = -EBUSY;
> >                 goto out_fb;
> 
> Do you really think that we need to support both file passthrough and file iomap
> on the same fuse filesystem?

Probably not.

> Unless you have a specific use case in mind, it looks like over design to me
> We could enforce either fc->passthrough or fc->iomap on init.
> 
> Put it in other words: unless you intend to test a combination of file
> passthrough
> and file iomap, I think you should leave this configuration out of the config
> possibilities.

Nah, one subsystem per backing device_id is ok with me.  If someday
someone builds a hybrid filesystem then ... hopefully they don't need
more than INT_MAX backing files to be in the index.

--D

> Thanks,
> Amir.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-21 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 207+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-21  0:37 [RFC v4] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:47 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 1/4] fuse: general bug fixes Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:50   ` [PATCH 1/7] fuse: fix livelock in synchronous file put from fuseblk workers Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 15:20     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 15:23       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:51   ` [PATCH 2/7] fuse: flush pending fuse events before aborting the connection Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 15:45     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 17:49       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-04 10:54         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-21  0:51   ` [PATCH 3/7] fuse: capture the unique id of fuse commands being sent Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-22  0:15     ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-26 18:52       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 15:48         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 15:54           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 18:47             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 23:05               ` Joanne Koong
2025-09-04  0:23                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 15:51         ` Bernd Schubert
2025-08-21  0:51   ` [PATCH 4/7] fuse: implement file attributes mask for statx Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-22  0:01     ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-26 18:56       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-29  6:24     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-29 15:39       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-02  9:41         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-02 20:57           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03  9:55             ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 15:49               ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-04 11:26                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-05  1:28                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:51   ` [PATCH 5/7] fuse: update file mode when updating acls Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 16:01     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 17:51       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-04 10:49         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-05  1:29           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:52   ` [PATCH 6/7] fuse: propagate default and file acls on creation Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-03 16:15     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-03 16:27       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:52   ` [PATCH 7/7] fuse: enable FUSE_SYNCFS for all servers Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21 22:18     ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-21 22:28       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21 22:54         ` Bernd Schubert
2025-08-21 23:31           ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-22 11:32           ` Shachar Sharon
2025-08-22 17:21             ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-26 19:31               ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-26 22:07                 ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-27 15:18                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-27 19:12                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-28 14:08                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-28 14:23                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-08-28 15:01                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-28 15:52                           ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-21  0:47 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 2/4] fuse: allow servers to use iomap for better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:52   ` [PATCH 01/23] fuse: move CREATE_TRACE_POINTS to a separate file Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:53   ` [PATCH 02/23] fuse: implement the basic iomap mechanisms Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-04 14:04     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-04 14:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-09-04 15:17         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-05  1:50           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:53   ` [PATCH 03/23] fuse: make debugging configurable at runtime Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:53   ` [PATCH 04/23] fuse: move the backing file idr and code into a new source file Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  7:21     ` Amir Goldstein
2025-08-21  7:42       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-08-21 16:15         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:53   ` [PATCH 05/23] fuse: move the passthrough-specific code back to passthrough.c Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  9:05     ` Amir Goldstein
2025-08-21 16:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:54   ` [PATCH 06/23] fuse: add an ioctl to add new iomap devices Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  8:09     ` Amir Goldstein
2025-08-21 16:15       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-08-21  0:54   ` [PATCH 07/23] fuse: flush events and send FUSE_SYNCFS and FUSE_DESTROY on unmount Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:54   ` [PATCH 08/23] fuse: implement basic iomap reporting such as FIEMAP and SEEK_{DATA,HOLE} Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:54   ` [PATCH 09/23] fuse: implement direct IO with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:55   ` [PATCH 10/23] fuse: implement buffered " Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:55   ` [PATCH 11/23] fuse: enable caching of timestamps Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:55   ` [PATCH 12/23] fuse: implement large folios for iomap pagecache files Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:55   ` [PATCH 13/23] fuse: use an unrestricted backing device with iomap pagecache io Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:56   ` [PATCH 14/23] fuse: advertise support for iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:56   ` [PATCH 15/23] fuse: query filesystem geometry when using iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:56   ` [PATCH 16/23] fuse: implement fadvise for iomap files Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:56   ` [PATCH 17/23] fuse: make the root nodeid dynamic Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:57   ` [PATCH 18/23] fuse: allow setting of root nodeid Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:57   ` [PATCH 19/23] fuse: invalidate ranges of block devices being used for iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:57   ` [PATCH 20/23] fuse: implement inline data file IO via iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:57   ` [PATCH 21/23] fuse: allow more statx fields Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:58   ` [PATCH 22/23] fuse: support atomic writes with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:58   ` [PATCH 23/23] fuse: enable iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:47 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 3/4] fuse: cache iomap mappings for even better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:58   ` [PATCH 1/4] fuse: cache iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:59   ` [PATCH 2/4] fuse: use the iomap cache for iomap_begin Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:59   ` [PATCH 3/4] fuse: invalidate iomap cache after file updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:59   ` [PATCH 4/4] fuse: enable iomap cache management Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:48 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 4/4] fuse: handle timestamps and ACLs correctly when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:59   ` [PATCH 1/6] fuse: force a ctime update after a fileattr_set call when in iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:00   ` [PATCH 2/6] fuse: synchronize inode->i_flags after fileattr_[gs]et Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:00   ` [PATCH 3/6] fuse: cache atime when in iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:00   ` [PATCH 4/6] fuse: let the kernel handle KILL_SUID/KILL_SGID for iomap filesystems Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:00   ` [PATCH 5/6] fuse: update ctime when updating acls on an iomap inode Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:01   ` [PATCH 6/6] fuse: always cache ACLs when using iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:48 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 1/4] libfuse: general bug fixes Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:01   ` [PATCH 1/1] libfuse: don't put HAVE_STATX in a public header Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21 21:39     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-08-21 22:27       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-22  0:33     ` Joanne Koong
2025-08-22 12:54       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-08-26 19:43         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:48 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 2/4] libfuse: allow servers to use iomap for better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:01   ` [PATCH 01/21] libfuse: bump kernel and library ABI versions Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:01   ` [PATCH 02/21] libfuse: add kernel gates for FUSE_IOMAP Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:02   ` [PATCH 03/21] libfuse: add fuse commands for iomap_begin and end Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:02   ` [PATCH 04/21] libfuse: add upper level iomap commands Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:02   ` [PATCH 05/21] libfuse: add a lowlevel notification to add a new device to iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:02   ` [PATCH 06/21] libfuse: add upper-level iomap add device function Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:03   ` [PATCH 07/21] libfuse: add iomap ioend low level handler Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:03   ` [PATCH 08/21] libfuse: add upper level iomap ioend commands Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:03   ` [PATCH 09/21] libfuse: add a reply function to send FUSE_ATTR_* to the kernel Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:03   ` [PATCH 10/21] libfuse: connect high level fuse library to fuse_reply_attr_iflags Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:04   ` [PATCH 11/21] libfuse: support direct I/O through iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:04   ` [PATCH 12/21] libfuse: support buffered " Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:04   ` [PATCH 13/21] libfuse: don't allow hardlinking of iomap files in the upper level fuse library Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:05   ` [PATCH 14/21] libfuse: allow discovery of the kernel's iomap capabilities Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:05   ` [PATCH 15/21] libfuse: add lower level iomap_config implementation Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:05   ` [PATCH 16/21] libfuse: add upper " Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:05   ` [PATCH 17/21] libfuse: allow root_nodeid mount option Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:06   ` [PATCH 18/21] libfuse: add low level code to invalidate iomap block device ranges Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:06   ` [PATCH 19/21] libfuse: add upper-level API to invalidate parts of an iomap block device Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:06   ` [PATCH 20/21] libfuse: add strictatime/lazytime mount options Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:06   ` [PATCH 21/21] libfuse: add atomic write support Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:48 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 3/4] libfuse: cache iomap mappings for even better file IO performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:07   ` [PATCH 1/2] libfuse: enable iomap cache management for lowlevel fuse Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:07   ` [PATCH 2/2] libfuse: add upper-level iomap cache management Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:49 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 4/4] libfuse: implement syncfs Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:07   ` [PATCH 1/2] libfuse: wire up FUSE_SYNCFS to the low level library Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:07   ` [PATCH 2/2] libfuse: add syncfs support to the upper library Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21 21:41   ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 4/4] libfuse: implement syncfs Bernd Schubert
2025-08-21 22:29     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:49 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 1/6] fuse4fs: fork a low level fuse server Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:08   ` [PATCH 01/20] fuse2fs: port fuse2fs to lowlevel libfuse API Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:08   ` [PATCH 02/20] fuse4fs: drop fuse 2.x support code Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:08   ` [PATCH 03/20] fuse4fs: namespace some helpers Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:08   ` [PATCH 04/20] fuse4fs: convert to low level API Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:09   ` [PATCH 05/20] libsupport: port the kernel list.h to libsupport Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:09   ` [PATCH 06/20] libsupport: add a cache Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:09   ` [PATCH 07/20] cache: disable debugging Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:09   ` [PATCH 08/20] cache: use modern list iterator macros Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:10   ` [PATCH 09/20] cache: embed struct cache in the owner Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:10   ` [PATCH 10/20] cache: pass cache pointer to callbacks Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:10   ` [PATCH 11/20] cache: pass a private data pointer through cache_walk Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:11   ` [PATCH 12/20] cache: add a helper to grab a new refcount for a cache_node Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:11   ` [PATCH 13/20] cache: return results of a cache flush Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:11   ` [PATCH 14/20] cache: add a "get only if incore" flag to cache_node_get Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:11   ` [PATCH 15/20] cache: support gradual expansion Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:12   ` [PATCH 16/20] cache: implement automatic shrinking Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:12   ` [PATCH 17/20] fuse4fs: add cache to track open files Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:12   ` [PATCH 18/20] fuse4fs: use the orphaned inode list Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:12   ` [PATCH 19/20] fuse4fs: implement FUSE_TMPFILE Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:13   ` [PATCH 20/20] fuse4fs: create incore reverse orphan list Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:49 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 2/6] libext2fs: refactoring for fuse2fs iomap support Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:13   ` [PATCH 01/10] libext2fs: make it possible to extract the fd from an IO manager Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:13   ` [PATCH 02/10] libext2fs: always fsync the device when flushing the cache Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:13   ` [PATCH 03/10] libext2fs: always fsync the device when closing the unix IO manager Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:14   ` [PATCH 04/10] libext2fs: only fsync the unix fd if we wrote to the device Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:14   ` [PATCH 05/10] libext2fs: invalidate cached blocks when freeing them Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:14   ` [PATCH 06/10] libext2fs: only flush affected blocks in unix_write_byte Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:14   ` [PATCH 07/10] libext2fs: allow unix_write_byte when the write would be aligned Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:15   ` [PATCH 08/10] libext2fs: allow clients to ask to write full superblocks Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:15   ` [PATCH 09/10] libext2fs: allow callers to disallow I/O to file data blocks Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:15   ` [PATCH 10/10] libext2fs: add posix advisory locking to the unix IO manager Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:49 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 3/6] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:15   ` [PATCH 01/19] fuse2fs: implement bare minimum iomap for file mapping reporting Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:16   ` [PATCH 02/19] fuse2fs: add iomap= mount option Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:16   ` [PATCH 03/19] fuse2fs: implement iomap configuration Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] fuse2fs: register block devices for use with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:17   ` [PATCH 05/19] fuse2fs: implement directio file reads Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:17   ` [PATCH 06/19] fuse2fs: add extent dump function for debugging Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:17   ` [PATCH 07/19] fuse2fs: implement direct write support Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:17   ` [PATCH 08/19] fuse2fs: turn on iomap for pagecache IO Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:18   ` [PATCH 09/19] fuse2fs: don't zero bytes in punch hole Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:18   ` [PATCH 10/19] fuse2fs: don't do file data block IO when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:18   ` [PATCH 11/19] fuse2fs: avoid fuseblk mode if fuse-iomap support is likely Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:18   ` [PATCH 12/19] fuse2fs: enable file IO to inline data files Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:19   ` [PATCH 13/19] fuse2fs: set iomap-related inode flags Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:19   ` [PATCH 14/19] fuse2fs: add strictatime/lazytime mount options Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:19   ` [PATCH 15/19] fuse2fs: configure block device block size Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:19   ` [PATCH 16/19] fuse4fs: don't use inode number translation when possible Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:20   ` [PATCH 17/19] fuse4fs: separate invalidation Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:20   ` [PATCH 18/19] fuse2fs: implement statx Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:20   ` [PATCH 19/19] fuse2fs: enable atomic writes Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:50 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 4/6] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:20   ` [PATCH 1/2] fuse2fs: enable caching of iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:21   ` [PATCH 2/2] fuse2fs: be smarter about caching iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:50 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 5/6] fuse2fs: handle timestamps and ACLs correctly when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:21   ` [PATCH 1/8] fuse2fs: skip permission checking on utimens " Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:21   ` [PATCH 2/8] fuse2fs: let the kernel tell us about acl/mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:21   ` [PATCH 3/8] fuse2fs: better debugging for file mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:22   ` [PATCH 4/8] fuse2fs: debug timestamp updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:22   ` [PATCH 5/8] fuse2fs: use coarse timestamps for iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:22   ` [PATCH 6/8] fuse2fs: add tracing for retrieving timestamps Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:23   ` [PATCH 7/8] fuse2fs: enable syncfs Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:23   ` [PATCH 8/8] fuse2fs: skip the gdt write in op_destroy if syncfs is working Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  0:50 ` [PATCHSET RFC v4 6/6] fuse2fs: improve block and inode caching Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:23   ` [PATCH 1/6] libsupport: add caching IO manager Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:23   ` [PATCH 2/6] iocache: add the actual buffer cache Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:24   ` [PATCH 3/6] iocache: bump buffer mru priority every 50 accesses Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:24   ` [PATCH 4/6] fuse2fs: enable caching IO manager Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:24   ` [PATCH 5/6] fuse2fs: increase inode cache size Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-21  1:24   ` [PATCH 6/6] libext2fs: improve caching for inodes Darrick J. Wong

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