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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 22:28:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250913212815.GE39973@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250908090557.GJ31600@ZenIV>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 10:05:57AM +0100, Al Viro wrote:

> > Fudging some type-state with C may well be useful but I suspect it is at
> > most part of a solution.  Simplification, documentation, run-time checks
> > might also be important parts.  As the type-state flag-day is a big
> > thing, maybe it shouldn't be first.
> 
> All of that requires being able to answer questions about what's there in
> the existing filesystems.  Which is pretty much the same problem as
> those audits, obviously.  And static annotations are way easier to
> reason about.

Speaking of annoyances, d_exact_alias() is gone, and good riddance, but there's
another fun issue in the same area - environment for d_splice_alias() call *and*
for one of those d_drop()-just-in-case.

The call tree is still the same:
_nfs4_open_and_get_state()
	<- _nfs4_do_open()
		<- nfs4_do_open()
			<- nfs4_atomic_open()
				== nfs_rpc_ops:open_context
					<- nfs_atomic_open()
						== ->atomic_open
					<- nfs4_file_open()
						== ->open
			<- nfs4_proc_create()
				== nfs_rpc_ops:create
					<- nfs_do_create()
						<- nfs_create()
							== ->create
						<- nfs_atomic_open_v23(), with O_CREAT
							== ->atomic_open
							# won't reach nfs4 stuff?

->create() and ->atomic_open() have the parent held at least shared;
->open() does not, but the chunk in question is hit only if dentry
is negative, which won't happen in case of ->open().

Additional complication comes from the possibility for _nfs4_open_and_get_state()
to fail after that d_splice_alias().  In that case we have _nfs4_do_open()
return an error; its caller is inside a do-while loop in nfs4_do_open() and
I think we can't end up going around the loop after such late failure (the
only error possible after that is -EACCES/-NFS4ERR_ACCESS and that's not one
of those that can lead to more iterations.

	However, looking at that late failure, that's the only call of
nfs4_opendata_access(), and that function seems to expect the possibility
of state->inode being a directory; can that really happen?

	Because if it can, we have a problem:
                alias = d_splice_alias(igrab(state->inode), dentry);
                /* d_splice_alias() can't fail here - it's a non-directory */
                if (alias) {
                        dput(ctx->dentry);
                        ctx->dentry = dentry = alias;
                }
very much *can* fail if it's reached with state->inode being a directory -
we can get ERR_PTR() out of that d_splice_alias() and that will oops at

        if (d_inode(dentry) == state->inode)
                nfs_inode_attach_open_context(ctx);
shortly afterwards (incidentally, what is that check about?  It can only
fail in case of nfs4_file_open(); should we have open(2) succeed in such
situation?)

Sigh...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-13 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-07 20:32 [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits Al Viro
2025-09-07 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08  0:06   ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  0:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08  2:51       ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  3:57         ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  4:50           ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08  5:19             ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  6:25               ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08  9:05                 ` Al Viro
2025-09-10  2:45                   ` NeilBrown
2025-09-10  7:24                     ` Al Viro
2025-09-10 22:52                       ` NeilBrown
2025-09-12  5:49                       ` ->atomic_open() fun (was Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits) Al Viro
2025-09-12  8:23                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-12 18:29                           ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 19:22                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-12 20:36                               ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 20:50                                 ` Al Viro
2025-09-13  3:36                             ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13  5:07                               ` Al Viro
2025-09-13  5:50                                 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-14 19:01                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-14 19:50                                   ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 20:05                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-15  8:54                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-09-12 18:55                         ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                           ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 2/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 3/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open_dotl() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 4/9] simplify cifs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 5/9] simplify vboxsf_dir_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 6/9] simplify nfs_atomic_open_v23() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 7/9] simplify fuse_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 8/9] simplify gfs2_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 9/9] slightly simplify nfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 22:23                             ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Linus Torvalds
2025-09-13  3:34                             ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13 21:28                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-09-14  1:05                     ` [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits NeilBrown
2025-09-14  1:37                       ` Al Viro
2025-09-14  5:56                         ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 23:07                           ` NeilBrown

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