From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>
Subject: Re: ->atomic_open() fun (was Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 20:50:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250914195034.GI39973@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegvXtXY=Pbxv+dMGFR8mvWN0DUwhSo6NwaVexk6Y6sao+w@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 09:01:40PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sept 2025 at 07:07, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > How would that combined revalidate+open work for fuse, anyway? The former
> > is basically a lookup - you send nodeid of parent + name, get nodeid +
> > attributes of child. The latter goes strictly by nodeid of child and
> > gets a 64bit number that apparently tells one opened file from another
> > (not to be confused with fhandle). Combined request of some sort?
>
> There are already two combined ones: FUSE_CREATE and FUSE_TMPFILE both
> get nodeid of parent + name and return attributes of child plus opened
> file. FUSE_CREATE gets invoked in the uncached or cached negative
> case from ->atomic_open() with inode lock for held exclusive.
>
> That leaves 2 cases:
>
> - uncached plain open: FUSE_OPEN_ATOMIC with same semantics as
> FUSE_CREATE, inode lock held shared
>
> - cached positive (plain or O_CREAT): FUSE_OPEN_REVAL getting nodeid
> of parent + name + nodeid of child and return opened file or -ESTALE,
> no locking required
What happens if the latter overlaps with rename? Or, for a cached
directory inode, with lookup elsewhere picking the same inode as our
cached (and possibly invalid, but we don't know that) dentry?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-14 19:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-07 20:32 [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits Al Viro
2025-09-07 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08 0:06 ` Al Viro
2025-09-08 0:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08 2:51 ` Al Viro
2025-09-08 3:57 ` Al Viro
2025-09-08 4:50 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08 5:19 ` Al Viro
2025-09-08 6:25 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08 9:05 ` Al Viro
2025-09-10 2:45 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-10 7:24 ` Al Viro
2025-09-10 22:52 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-12 5:49 ` ->atomic_open() fun (was Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits) Al Viro
2025-09-12 8:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-12 18:29 ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 19:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-12 20:36 ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 20:50 ` Al Viro
2025-09-13 3:36 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13 5:07 ` Al Viro
2025-09-13 5:50 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-14 19:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-14 19:50 ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-09-14 20:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-15 8:54 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-09-12 18:55 ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open_dotl() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 4/9] simplify cifs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 5/9] simplify vboxsf_dir_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 6/9] simplify nfs_atomic_open_v23() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 7/9] simplify fuse_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 8/9] simplify gfs2_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59 ` [PATCH 9/9] slightly simplify nfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 22:23 ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Linus Torvalds
2025-09-13 3:34 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13 21:28 ` [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits Al Viro
2025-09-14 1:05 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-14 1:37 ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 5:56 ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 23:07 ` NeilBrown
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