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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	brauner@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, pfalcato@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86: fix access_ok() and valid_user_address() using wrong USER_PTR_MAX in modules
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2025 19:26:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251106192645.4108a505@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHG1P61Nd7gMriCSF=g=gHxESPBPNmhHjtOQvG8HhpW0rg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 14:19:06 +0100
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 2:10 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2025 at 01:06:06PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:  
> > > I don't know what are you trying to say here.
> > >
> > > Are you protesting the notion that reducing cache footprint of the
> > > memory allocator is a good idea, or perhaps are you claiming these
> > > vars are too problematic to warrant the effort, or something else?  
> >
> > I'm saying all work which does not change the code in a trivial way should
> > have numbers to back it up. As in: "this change X shows this perf improvement
> > Y with the benchmark Z."
> >
> > Because code uglification better have a fair justification.
> >
> > Not just random "oh yeah, it would be better to have this." If the changes are
> > trivial, sure. But the runtime const thing was added for a very narrow case,
> > AFAIR, and it wasn't supposed to have a widespread use. And it ain't that
> > trivial, codewise.
> >
> > IOW, no non-trivial changes which become a burden to maintainers without
> > a really good reason for them. This has been the guiding principle for
> > non-trivial perf optimizations in Linux. AFAIR at least.
> >
> > But hey, what do I know...  
> 
> Then, as I pointed out, you should be protesting the patching of
> USER_PTR_MAX as it came with no benchmarks and also resulted in a
> regression.
> 

IIRC it was a definite performance improvement for a specific workload
(compiling kernels) on a system where the relatively small d-cache
caused significant overhead reading the value from memory.

Look at the patch author for more info.

	David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-06 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-30 10:52 [PATCH v4] fs: hide names_cachep behind runtime access machinery Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-30 13:13 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-30 13:19   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-30 16:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-30 16:35   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-30 18:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-30 18:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-30 21:39       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-30 22:06         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 12:08         ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-31 15:13           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 16:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-31 16:25               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 16:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-31 17:42                   ` [WIP RFC PATCH 0/3] runtime-const header split and whatnot Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 17:42                     ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: fix access_ok() and valid_user_address() using wrong USER_PTR_MAX in modules Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 21:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-31 22:01                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-01 11:26                       ` David Laight
2025-11-04  6:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-04  8:56                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-04  9:37                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-04 10:25                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-04 16:13                           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-05  1:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-05 11:37                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-05 20:50                             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-06 11:14                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-06 12:06                                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-06 13:10                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-06 13:19                                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-06 13:36                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-06 14:49                                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-06 19:26                                       ` David Laight [this message]
2025-11-06 19:49                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-04 17:09                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-04 19:07                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-04 19:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-04 21:53                               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-04 20:17                             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-04 22:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-05 11:49                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-31 17:42                     ` [PATCH 2/3] runtime-const: split headers between accessors and fixup; disable for modules Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 17:42                     ` [PATCH 3/3] fs: hide names_cachep behind runtime access machinery Mateusz Guzik
2025-10-31 23:30                       ` kernel test robot
2025-10-31 23:30                       ` kernel test robot
2025-10-31 23:41                       ` kernel test robot
2025-11-01 17:49                       ` kernel test robot
2025-10-31 13:30 ` [PATCH v4] " kernel test robot
2025-10-31 22:43 ` kernel test robot
2025-11-01 23:06 ` kernel test robot

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