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From: hch <hch@lst.de>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: hch <hch@lst.de>, Hans Holmberg <Hans.Holmberg@wdc.com>,
	"linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] xfs: fake fallocate success for always CoW inodes
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 14:40:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251111134056.GA748@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lhu4ir0kiei.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:50:13AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 08:31:30AM +0000, Hans Holmberg wrote:
> >> In stead of returning success in fallocate(2), could we in stead return
> >> an distinct error code that would tell the caller that:
> >> 
> >> The optimized allocation not supported, AND there is no use trying to
> >> preallocate data using writes?
> >> 
> >> EUSELESS would be nice to have, but that is not available.
> >> 
> >> Then posix_fallocate could fail with -EINVAL (which looks legit according
> >> to the man page "the underlying filesystem does not support the operation")
> >> or skip the writes and return success (whatever is preferable)
> >
> > The problem is that both the existing direct callers of fallocate(2)
> > including all currently released glibc versions do not expect that
> > return value.
> 
> That could be covered by putting a flag into the mode argument of
> allocate that triggers the new behavior.

Which basically makes it a new mode, just encoded as a flag for all
purposes ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-06 13:35 [RFC] xfs: fake fallocate success for always CoW inodes Hans Holmberg
2025-11-06 13:48 ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-06 13:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-06 14:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-06 14:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-11  8:31         ` Hans Holmberg
2025-11-11  9:05           ` hch
2025-11-11  9:50             ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-11 13:40               ` hch [this message]
2025-11-06 16:31       ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-06 17:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-08 12:30           ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-09 22:15             ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-10  5:27               ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10  9:38                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10 10:03                   ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10 20:28                 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-11  8:56                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10  9:37               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10  9:44                 ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10 21:33                 ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-11  9:04                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-11  9:30                   ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10  9:31             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10  9:48               ` truncatat? was, " Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10 10:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10  9:49               ` Florian Weimer
2025-11-10  9:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig

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