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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: cem@kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] xfs: add media error reporting ioctl
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 08:18:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260108161817.GI15551@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260108161404.GA10766@lst.de>

On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 05:14:04PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 08:09:29AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > But maybe the blockdev fs can implement the new fserror hook, see if
> > there's a super_block associated with the bdev, and throw the fserror
> > up to the mounted filesystem.
> > 
> > (Hard part: partitions)
> 
> All the partition mapping can be trivially undone.  I still think
> issuing the commands on the block device instead of from the file
> system feels wrong.

"From the filesystem"?  That gives me an idea: what if xfs_scrub instead
opens the root dir, calls an ioctl that does the verify work, and that
ioctl then reports the result to userspace and xfs_healthmon?

As opposed to this kind of stupid reporting ioctl?

> > > > Or I guess one of us should go figure out a reasonable verify command
> > > > that would call fserror_* on media errors.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I would expect the verify command to be issued by fs/xfs/scrub/
> > > in the kernel, so that it can be directly tied into the in-kernel
> > > logical to physical and rmap.  But you are more well versed there,
> > > so maybe I'm missing something.
> > 
> > Did Chaitanya actually push for the verify command to get merged?
> 
> Not yet.
> 
> > I guess it wouldn't be terribly hard to make a stupid version that
> > simply does direct reads to a throwaway page, to work around willy's
> > objection that the existing scsi verify command doesn't require proof
> > that the device actually did anything (and some of them clearly don't).
> 
> We could do that, although I'd make it conditional.  For the kind of
> storage you want to store your data on it does work, as the customer
> would get very unhappy otherwise.

Heheh.  It's really too bad that I have a bunch of Very Expensive RAID
controllers that lie... and it's the crappy Samsung QVO SSDs that
actually do the work.

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-08 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-06  7:10 [PATCHSET V4] xfs: autonomous self healing of filesystems Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:10 ` [PATCH 01/11] docs: discuss autonomous self healing in the xfs online repair design doc Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-07  9:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-07 19:15     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:11 ` [PATCH 02/11] xfs: start creating infrastructure for health monitoring Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-07  9:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-07 18:50     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-08 10:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-06  7:11 ` [PATCH 03/11] xfs: create event queuing, formatting, and discovery infrastructure Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-07  9:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-07 19:01     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:11 ` [PATCH 04/11] xfs: convey filesystem unmount events to the health monitor Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:11 ` [PATCH 05/11] xfs: convey metadata health " Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:12 ` [PATCH 06/11] xfs: convey filesystem shutdown " Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:12 ` [PATCH 07/11] xfs: convey externally discovered fsdax media errors " Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:12 ` [PATCH 08/11] xfs: convey file I/O " Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:12 ` [PATCH 09/11] xfs: allow reconfiguration of the health monitoring device Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:13 ` [PATCH 10/11] xfs: check if an open file is on the health monitored fs Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-06  7:13 ` [PATCH 11/11] xfs: add media error reporting ioctl Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-07  9:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-07 16:30     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-08 10:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-08 16:09         ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-08 16:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-08 16:18             ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2026-01-08 16:20               ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-08 16:53                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12  5:24                   ` Darrick J. Wong

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