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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	fsverity@lists.linux.dev, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, aalbersh@kernel.org,
	david@fromorbit.com, tytso@mit.edu, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, chao@kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: fsverity metadata offset, was: Re: [PATCH v2 0/23] fs-verity support for XFS with post EOF merkle tree
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 08:32:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260120073218.GA6757@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260119195816.GA15583@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:58:16AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > >  a) not all architectures are reasonable.  As Darrick pointed out
> > >     hexagon seems to support page size up to 1MiB.  While I don't know
> > >     if they exist in real life, powerpc supports up to 256kiB pages,
> > >     and I know they are used for real in various embedded settings
> 
> They *did* way back in the day, I worked with some seekrit PPC440s early
> in my career.  I don't know that any of them still exist, but the code
> is still there...

Sorry, I meant I don't really know how real the hexagon large page
sizes are.  I know about the ppcs one personally, too.

> > If we do need to fix this, there are a couple things we could consider
> > doing without changing the on-disk format in ext4 or f2fs: putting the
> > data in the page cache at a different offset than it exists on-disk, or
> > using "small" pages for EOF specifically.
> 
> I'd leave the ondisk offset as-is, but change the pagecache offset to
> roundup(i_size_read(), mapping_max_folio_size_supported()) just to keep
> file data and fsverity metadata completely separate.

Can we find a way to do that in common code and make ext4 and f2fs do
the same?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-20  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-12 14:49 [PATCH v2 0/23] fs-verity support for XFS with post EOF merkle tree Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/22] fsverity: report validation errors back to the filesystem Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13  1:29   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13  8:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 10:27     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 17:52       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/22] fsverity: expose ensure_fsverity_info() Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:05   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/22] iomap: introduce IOMAP_F_BEYOND_EOF Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 22:31     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13 10:39       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13  8:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 10:50       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 16:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 17:57           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-16 21:52   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-17  2:11     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/22] iomap: allow iomap_file_buffered_write() take iocb without file Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:22   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13  8:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 10:53       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 16:43       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-14  4:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-14  6:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-14 16:43           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/22] iomap: integrate fs-verity verification into iomap's read path Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13 11:16     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 16:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13  8:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 6/22] xfs: add fs-verity ro-compat flag Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 7/22] xfs: add inode on-disk VERITY flag Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 8/22] xfs: initialize fs-verity on file open and cleanup on inode destruction Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:50 ` [PATCH v2 9/22] xfs: don't allow to enable DAX on fs-verity sealed inode Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] xfs: disable direct read path for fs-verity files Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13  8:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 11:22     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] xfs: add verity info pointer to xfs inode Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13  8:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 18:02       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-14  6:43         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] xfs: introduce XFS_FSVERITY_CONSTRUCTION inode flag Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:42   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13 11:24     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] xfs: introduce XFS_FSVERITY_REGION_START constant Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:46   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13 12:23     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 18:06       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-14  6:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-14  7:59           ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-14 16:50           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] xfs: disable preallocations for fsverity Merkle tree writes Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] xfs: add writeback and iomap reading of Merkle tree pages Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 22:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13  8:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-13 12:31       ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] xfs: add fs-verity support Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 23:05   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-13 18:32     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-14 16:40       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-16 14:52     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] xfs: add fs-verity ioctls Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] xfs: advertise fs-verity being available on filesystem Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] xfs: check and repair the verity inode flag state Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] xfs: report verity failures through the health system Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] xfs: add fsverity traces Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-12 23:07   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-12 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] xfs: enable ro-compat fs-verity flag Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-13 16:36 ` [PATCH v2 0/23] fs-verity support for XFS with post EOF merkle tree Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-13 18:45   ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-14  5:00     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-14  6:15       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-14  8:20         ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-14  9:53           ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-14 16:42             ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-19  6:33             ` fsverity metadata offset, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-19 19:32               ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-19 19:58                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-20  7:32                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-01-20 11:44                     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2026-01-20 17:34                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-21 15:03                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-19 20:00                 ` Matthew Wilcox

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