From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] get rid of busy-wait in shrink_dcache_tree()
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2026 05:36:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260124053639.GL3183987@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgkSAHswtOzvTXeBOz1GLNfsohSPdyzZmnVYe2Qx4fetQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 08:46:52PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Just make a proper "struct select_data *" union member that aliases
> that "d_alias.next" field, and the compiler will generate the EXACT
> same code, except the source code will be cleaner, and you won't need
> any hacky pointer casts.
>
> And document how that field is NULL when the dentry is killed, and how
> that NULL 'dentry->d_u.d_alias.next' field at that point becomes a
> NULL 'dentry->d_u.d_select_data' field.
>
> You don't need to describe 'struct select_data', you just need to
> declare it. IOW, something like this:
As the matter of fact, that _was_ the previous iteration of that patch -
see http://ftp.linux.org.uk/people/viro/y8
The only trouble is that as soon as some joker slaps __randomize_layout
on struct hlist_node they'll start flipping from sharing with ->next to
sharing with ->pprev, at random.
I'm not saying it wouldn't work, but I would rather have the proofs of
correctness less subtle. And it's not even hard to do - the only
rule added would be that ->d_u.d_alias should never be accessed for
negative dentries and never without ->i_lock on the inode of dentry
in question.
The only places where it does not hold at the moment are those WARN_ON()
and we'll be better off having those spelled in less obscure way; we
want to verify that dentry is negative, so let's express that in the
idiomatic way.
And that's it - with that done, we can add a field, obviously with
forward declaration of struct select_data, etc. and have it explicitly
initialized whenever dentry goes negative. Instead of zeroing
->d_u.d_alias.{next,pprev} as we do now.
Currently !hlist_unlinked(&dentry->d_u.d_alias) is equivalent to
dentry->d_inode != NULL, with identical stability requirements.
And nobody ever traverses that hlist without ->i_lock - no RCU accesses
there. We do have lockless checks that list is not empty (right before
grabbing ->i_lock and rechecking), but those come from the inode side;
"are there any aliases for this inode" rather than "is this dentry
an alias for anything (== positive)".
I'm putting together short documentation on d_inode/d_alias/i_dentry/type
bits in d_flags; should be done by tomorrow morning...
PS: a fun catch while doing that code audit - AFAICS, we don't really need
to play with fake root dentry for NFS anymore; the reason why it used to be
needed had been gone since 2013 as an unnoticed side effect of switching
shrink_dcache_for_umount() to use of d_walk()... Obviously needs
a review from NFS folks, but if they see no problems with that, it would
be nice to get rid of that kludge, as in
diff --git a/fs/nfs/getroot.c b/fs/nfs/getroot.c
index f13d25d95b85..2ac8404e1a15 100644
--- a/fs/nfs/getroot.c
+++ b/fs/nfs/getroot.c
@@ -32,35 +32,6 @@
#define NFSDBG_FACILITY NFSDBG_CLIENT
-/*
- * Set the superblock root dentry.
- * Note that this function frees the inode in case of error.
- */
-static int nfs_superblock_set_dummy_root(struct super_block *sb, struct inode *inode)
-{
- /* The mntroot acts as the dummy root dentry for this superblock */
- if (sb->s_root == NULL) {
- sb->s_root = d_make_root(inode);
- if (sb->s_root == NULL)
- return -ENOMEM;
- ihold(inode);
- /*
- * Ensure that this dentry is invisible to d_find_alias().
- * Otherwise, it may be spliced into the tree by
- * d_splice_alias if a parent directory from the same
- * filesystem gets mounted at a later time.
- * This again causes shrink_dcache_for_umount_subtree() to
- * Oops, since the test for IS_ROOT() will fail.
- */
- spin_lock(&d_inode(sb->s_root)->i_lock);
- spin_lock(&sb->s_root->d_lock);
- hlist_del_init(&sb->s_root->d_u.d_alias);
- spin_unlock(&sb->s_root->d_lock);
- spin_unlock(&d_inode(sb->s_root)->i_lock);
- }
- return 0;
-}
-
/*
* get a root dentry from the root filehandle
*/
@@ -99,10 +70,6 @@ int nfs_get_root(struct super_block *s, struct fs_context *fc)
goto out_fattr;
}
- error = nfs_superblock_set_dummy_root(s, inode);
- if (error != 0)
- goto out_fattr;
-
/* root dentries normally start off anonymous and get spliced in later
* if the dentry tree reaches them; however if the dentry already
* exists, we'll pick it up at this point and use it as the root
@@ -115,7 +82,6 @@ int nfs_get_root(struct super_block *s, struct fs_context *fc)
goto out_fattr;
}
- security_d_instantiate(root, inode);
spin_lock(&root->d_lock);
if (IS_ROOT(root) && !root->d_fsdata &&
!(root->d_flags & DCACHE_NFSFS_RENAMED)) {
@@ -123,6 +89,8 @@ int nfs_get_root(struct super_block *s, struct fs_context *fc)
name = NULL;
}
spin_unlock(&root->d_lock);
+ if (!s->s_root)
+ s->s_root = dget(root);
fc->root = root;
if (server->caps & NFS_CAP_SECURITY_LABEL)
kflags |= SECURITY_LSM_NATIVE_LABELS;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-24 5:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-22 20:20 [PATCH][RFC] get rid of busy-wait in shrink_dcache_tree() Al Viro
2026-01-23 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-01-23 0:36 ` Al Viro
2026-01-24 4:36 ` Al Viro
2026-01-24 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-01-24 5:36 ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-01-24 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-01-24 18:43 ` Al Viro
2026-01-24 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-01-24 20:28 ` Al Viro
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] getting rid of busy-wait in shrink_dcache_parent() Al Viro
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] for_each_alias(): helper macro for iterating through dentries of given inode Al Viro
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] struct dentry: make ->d_u anonymous Al Viro
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] dcache.c: more idiomatic "positives are not allowed" sanity checks Al Viro
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] get rid of busy-waiting in shrink_dcache_tree() Al Viro
2026-04-02 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-02 22:44 ` Al Viro
2026-04-02 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-02 23:16 ` Al Viro
2026-04-03 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-03 2:15 ` Al Viro
2026-04-04 0:02 ` Al Viro
2026-04-04 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-04 18:54 ` Al Viro
2026-04-04 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-05 0:04 ` Al Viro
2026-04-02 20:28 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] getting rid of busy-wait in shrink_dcache_parent() Paulo Alcantara
2026-04-03 4:46 ` Al Viro
2026-04-04 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v3 " Al Viro
2026-04-04 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] for_each_alias(): helper macro for iterating through dentries of given inode Al Viro
2026-04-04 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/4] struct dentry: make ->d_u anonymous Al Viro
2026-04-04 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/4] dcache.c: more idiomatic "positives are not allowed" sanity checks Al Viro
2026-04-04 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/4] get rid of busy-waiting in shrink_dcache_tree() Al Viro
2026-04-09 16:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] getting rid of busy-wait in shrink_dcache_parent() Jeff Layton
2026-04-09 19:02 ` Al Viro
2026-04-09 20:10 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-09 21:57 ` Al Viro
2026-04-09 22:38 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 8:48 ` [RFC][PATCH] make sure that lock_for_kill() callers drop the locks in safe order Al Viro
2026-04-10 11:18 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 11:56 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 15:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-10 15:57 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 16:27 ` Boqun Feng
2026-04-10 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-10 18:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-10 18:21 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 19:19 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 19:32 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 21:13 ` Calvin Owens
2026-04-10 21:24 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 22:15 ` Calvin Owens
2026-04-10 23:05 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 23:30 ` Calvin Owens
2026-04-11 0:51 ` Al Viro
2026-04-11 12:07 ` Calvin Owens
2026-04-10 17:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-10 18:26 ` Jeff Layton
2026-04-10 18:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-10 18:52 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 19:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-04-10 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-10 20:24 ` Al Viro
2026-04-10 20:48 ` Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:33 ` Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] shrink_dentry_list(): start with removing from shrink list Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] fold lock_for_kill() into shrink_kill() Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] fold lock_for_kill() and __dentry_kill() into common helper Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 1 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 2 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 3 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 4 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 5 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] reducing rcu_read_lock() scopes in dput and friends, step 6 Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] adjust calling conventions of lock_for_kill(), fold __dentry_kill() into dentry_kill() Al Viro
2026-04-11 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] document dentry_kill() Al Viro
2026-04-12 19:03 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] shrink_dentry_list(): start with removing from shrink list Al Viro
2026-04-21 9:28 ` [git pull] dcache busy-wait fixes Al Viro
2026-04-21 16:25 ` pr-tracker-bot
2026-04-12 13:15 ` [RFC][PATCH] make sure that lock_for_kill() callers drop the locks in safe order Jeff Layton
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