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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, bernd@bsbernd.com, neal@gompa.dev,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/31] fuse: use an unrestricted backing device with iomap pagecache io
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 15:55:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260126235531.GE5900@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnrk1ZDz5pQUtyiphuqtyAJtpx23x1BcdPUDBRJRfJaguzrhQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 02:03:35PM -0800, Joanne Koong wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 5:49 PM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org>
> >
> > With iomap support turned on for the pagecache, the kernel issues
> > writeback to directly to block devices and we no longer have to push all
> > those pages through the fuse device to userspace.  Therefore, we don't
> > need the tight dirty limits (~1M) that are used for regular fuse.  This
> > dramatically increases the performance of fuse's pagecache IO.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  fs/fuse/file_iomap.c |   21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
> >
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/fuse/file_iomap.c b/fs/fuse/file_iomap.c
> > index 0bae356045638b..a9bacaa0991afa 100644
> > --- a/fs/fuse/file_iomap.c
> > +++ b/fs/fuse/file_iomap.c
> > @@ -713,6 +713,27 @@ const struct fuse_backing_ops fuse_iomap_backing_ops = {
> >  void fuse_iomap_mount(struct fuse_mount *fm)
> >  {
> >         struct fuse_conn *fc = fm->fc;
> > +       struct super_block *sb = fm->sb;
> > +       struct backing_dev_info *old_bdi = sb->s_bdi;
> > +       char *suffix = sb->s_bdev ? "-fuseblk" : "-fuse";
> > +       int res;
> > +
> > +       /*
> > +        * sb->s_bdi points to the initial private bdi.  However, we want to
> > +        * redirect it to a new private bdi with default dirty and readahead
> > +        * settings because iomap writeback won't be pushing a ton of dirty
> > +        * data through the fuse device.  If this fails we fall back to the
> > +        * initial fuse bdi.
> > +        */
> > +       sb->s_bdi = &noop_backing_dev_info;
> > +       res = super_setup_bdi_name(sb, "%u:%u%s.iomap", MAJOR(fc->dev),
> > +                                  MINOR(fc->dev), suffix);
> > +       if (res) {
> > +               sb->s_bdi = old_bdi;
> > +       } else {
> > +               bdi_unregister(old_bdi);
> > +               bdi_put(old_bdi);
> > +       }
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't sb->s_bdi already set to
> noop_backing_dev_info when fuse_iomap_mount() is called?
> fuse_fill_super() -> fuse_fill_super_common() -> fuse_bdi_init() does
> this already before the fuse_iomap_mount() call, afaict.

Right.

> I think what we need to do is just unset BDI_CAP_STRICTLIMIT and
> adjust the bdi max ratio?

That's sufficient to undo the effects of fuse_bdi_init, yes.  However
the BDI gets created with the name "$major:$minor{-fuseblk}" and there
are "management" scripts that try to tweak fuse BDIs for better
performance.

I don't want some dumb script to mismanage a fuse-iomap filesystem
because it can't tell the difference, so I create a new bdi with the
name "$major:$minor.iomap" to make it obvious.  But super_setup_bdi_name
gets cranky if s_bdi isn't set to noop and we don't want to fail a mount
here due to ENOMEM so ... I implemented this weird switcheroo code.

> This is more of a nit, but I think it'd also be nice if we
> swapped the ordering of this patch with the previous one enabling
> large folios, so that large folios gets enabled only when all the bdi
> stuff for it is ready.

Will do, thanks for reading these patches!

Also note that I've changed this part of the patchset quite a lot since
this posting; iomap configuration is now a completely separate fuse
command that gets triggered after the FUSE_INIT reply is received.

--D

> Thanks,
> Joanne
> 
> >
> >         /*
> >          * Enable syncfs for iomap fuse servers so that we can send a final
> >
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20251029002755.GK6174@frogsfrogsfrogs>
     [not found] ` <176169810144.1424854.11439355400009006946.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
     [not found]   ` <176169810415.1424854.10373764649459618752.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-21 23:42     ` [PATCH 03/31] fuse: make debugging configurable at runtime Joanne Koong
2026-01-22  0:02       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-22  0:23         ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-22  0:40           ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810502.1424854.13869957103489591272.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-22  1:13     ` [PATCH 07/31] fuse: create a per-inode flag for toggling iomap Joanne Koong
2026-01-22 22:22       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-23 18:05         ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-24 16:54           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-27 23:33             ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810568.1424854.4073875923015322741.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-22  2:07     ` [PATCH 10/31] fuse: implement basic iomap reporting such as FIEMAP and SEEK_{DATA,HOLE} Joanne Koong
2026-01-22 22:31       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810612.1424854.16053093294573829123.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-23 18:56     ` [PATCH 12/31] fuse: implement direct IO with iomap Joanne Koong
2026-01-26 23:46       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-05 19:19     ` Chris Mason
2026-02-06  2:08       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-06  2:52         ` Chris Mason
2026-02-06  5:08           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-06 14:27             ` Chris Mason
     [not found]   ` <176169810700.1424854.5753715202341698632.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-23 21:50     ` [PATCH 16/31] fuse: implement large folios for iomap pagecache files Joanne Koong
     [not found]   ` <176169810721.1424854.6150447623894591900.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-26 22:03     ` [PATCH 17/31] fuse: use an unrestricted backing device with iomap pagecache io Joanne Koong
2026-01-26 23:55       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2026-01-27  1:35         ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-27  2:09           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-27 18:04             ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-27 23:37               ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-27  0:59   ` [PATCHSET v6 4/8] fuse: allow servers to use iomap for better file IO performance Joanne Koong
2026-01-27  2:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-27 19:47       ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-27 23:21         ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-28  0:10           ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-28  0:34             ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-29  1:12               ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-29 20:02                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-29 22:41                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-29 22:50                   ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-29 23:12                     ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810980.1424854.10557015500766654898.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-02-05 18:57     ` [PATCH 29/31] fuse: disable direct reclaim for any fuse server that uses iomap Chris Mason
2026-02-06  4:25       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810874.1424854.5037707950055785011.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-02-05 19:01     ` [PATCH 24/31] fuse: implement inline data file IO via iomap Chris Mason
2026-02-06  2:27       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810765.1424854.10969346031644824992.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-02-05 19:07     ` [PATCH 19/31] fuse: query filesystem geometry when using iomap Chris Mason
2026-02-06  2:17       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810656.1424854.15239592653019383193.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-02-05 19:12     ` [PATCH 14/31] fuse: implement buffered IO with iomap Chris Mason
2026-02-06  2:14       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810634.1424854.13084435884326863405.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-02-05 19:16     ` [PATCH 13/31] fuse_trace: implement direct " Chris Mason
2026-02-06  2:12       ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]   ` <176169810371.1424854.3010195280915622081.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs>
2026-01-21 19:34     ` [PATCH 01/31] fuse: implement the basic iomap mechanisms Joanne Koong
2026-01-21 22:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-01-22  0:06         ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-22  0:34           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-05 19:22     ` Chris Mason
2026-02-05 23:31       ` Darrick J. Wong

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