From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD9EC24A069; Fri, 20 Feb 2026 15:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1771600255; cv=none; b=TIiuTUOhuV/UguZRn+QyuViRszIOgjQpsptFolHv+KPU2iVhbx/VJIlG5q9AmHC1NZkdriX4+gDyTdqK3adHWkBg2PeahbtRQUSeyvXqmfGXyUhdGRkIJZQkYqIKhkmhFbTsMRzeJ9dRnhaLdbNZte5EvDdlvXc1gyFIJ3VjbNA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1771600255; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ENmU5+WPUI0R8hYUB4d9b1mvfoTENkFshgzopVSgLTo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=QenLX3bOvhlWnHZlN87wUYUHQsZk0VG2LOy/OOnlep9yQH0afpxf0PR4cetv0YVqlXIHjBj2z1E1Uzhh6WHBWino60DIrNEQwzV3Vi5T9qv5/gInm40cL82MwcMWXcrEFWLZUOpk1252XBWPmEq5ZO9WbrO898StdqXzWnqTblI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 71F7668B05; Fri, 20 Feb 2026 16:10:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 16:10:50 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, Andres Freund , djwong@kernel.org, john.g.garry@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org, hch@lst.de, ritesh.list@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com, Luis Chamberlain , dchinner@redhat.com, Javier Gonzalez , gost.dev@samsung.com, tytso@mit.edu, p.raghav@samsung.com, vi.shah@samsung.com Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Buffered atomic writes Message-ID: <20260220151050.GA14064@lst.de> References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 10:08:26AM +0000, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 11:20:36AM +0100, Pankaj Raghav wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Atomic (untorn) writes for Direct I/O have successfully landed in kernel > > for ext4 and XFS[1][2]. However, extending this support to Buffered I/O > > remains a contentious topic, with previous discussions often stalling due to > > concerns about complexity versus utility. > > > > Hi, > > Thanks a lot everyone for the input on this topic. I would like to > summarize some of the important points discussed here so that it could > be used as a reference for the talk and RFCs going forward: > > - There is a general consensus to add atomic support to buffered IO > path. I don't think that's quite true.