* Re: LSM: Whiteout chardev creation sidesteps mknod hook
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@ 2026-04-08 12:24 ` Mickaël Salaün
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From: Mickaël Salaün @ 2026-04-08 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Brauner
Cc: Günther Noack, Paul Moore, linux-security-module,
John Johansen, Georgia Garcia, Kentaro Takeda, Tetsuo Handa,
linux-fsdevel, Alejandro Colomar
CCing fsdevel and Alejandro.
On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 01:01:31PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 03:05:13PM +0200, Günther Noack wrote:
> > Hello Christian, Paul, Mickaël and LSM maintainers!
> >
> > I discovered the following bug in Landlock, which potentially also
> > affects other LSMs:
> >
> > With renameat2(2)'s RENAME_WHITEOUT flag, it is possible to create a
> > "whiteout object" at the source of the rename. Whiteout objects are
> > character devices with major/minor (0, 0) -- these devices are not
> > bound to any driver, so they are harmless, but still, the creation of
> > these files can sidestep the LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_MAKE_CHAR access right
> > in Landlock.
>
> Any way to "write" on the filesystem should properly be controlled. The
> man page says that RENAME_WHITEOUT requires CAP_MKNOD, however, looking
> at vfs_mknod(), there is an explicit exception to not check CAP_MKNOD
> for whiteout devices. See commit a3c751a50fe6 ("vfs: allow unprivileged
> whiteout creation").
>
> >
> >
> > I am unconvinced which is the right fix here -- do you have an opinion
> > on this from the VFS/LSM side?
> >
> >
> > Option 1: Make filesystems call security_path_mknod() during RENAME_WHITEOUT?
>
> This is the right semantic.
>
> >
> > Do it in the VFS rename hook.
> >
> > * Pro: Fixes it for all LSMs
> > * Con: Call would have to be done in multiple filesystems
>
> That would not work.
>
> >
> >
> > Option 2: Handle it in security_{path,inode}_rename()
> >
> > Make Landlock handle it in security_inode_rename() by looking for the
> > RENAME_WHITEOUT flag.
> >
> > * Con: Operation should only be denied if the file system even
> > implements RENAME_WHITEOUT, and we would have to maintain a list of
> > affected filesystems for that. (That feels like solving it at the
> > wrong layer of abstraction.)
>
> Why would we need to maintain such list? If it's only about the errno,
> well, that would not be perfect be ok with a proper doc.
>
> I'm mostly worried that there might be other (future) call paths to
> create whiteout devices.
>
> I think option 2 would be the most practical approach for Landlock, with
> a new LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_MAKE_WHITEOUT right.
>
> I'm also wondering how are the chances that other kind of special file
> type like a whiteout device could come up in the future. Any guess
> Christian?
>
> > * Con: Unclear whether other LSMs need a similar fix
>
> I guess at least AppArmor and Tomoyo would consider that an issue.
>
> >
> >
> > Option 3: Declare that this is working as intended?
>
> We need to be able to controle any file creation, which is not currently
> the case because of this whiteout exception.
>
> >
> > * Pro: (0, 0) is not a "real" character device
> >
> >
> > In cases 1 and 2, we'd likely need to double check that we are not
> > breaking existing scenarios involving OverlayFS, by suddenly requiring
> > a more lax policy for creating character devices on these directories.
> >
> > Please let me know what you think. I'm specifically interested in:
> >
> > 1. Christian: What is the appropriate way to do this VFS wise?
> > 2. LSM maintainers: Is this a bug that affects other LSMs as well?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > —Günther
> >
> > P.S.: For full transparency, I found this bug by pointing Google
> > Gemini at the Landlock codebase.
> >
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