From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
fuse-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fuse: permit freezing while waiting for request answer
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 12:41:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260820104111.GC1837346@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aobKfyGHkdMcleoc@google.com>
On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 06:47:03PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > PM_FREEZE_ME_LAST is going to be trouble I think, before long you'll
> > need PM_FREEZE_ME_REALLY_LAST or somesuch nonsense.
>
> We probably need more than one, yeah. This doesn't take into consideration
> relations between tasks within a priority group. If client A holds a lock
> and enters freezer, and client B sleeps on that lock, then this group
> cannot be suspended. We need clients to reach some freezer checkpoint,
> instead of doing in-place freezing.
>
> > Using cgroups for this also doesn't sound right.
>
> This begins sounding pessimistic.
>
> cgroup-s sounded solid to me, because this moves all the clients to that
> save freezer checkpoint when they don't hold any locks. The only
> problem is that if a task never reaches "return from syscall" then
> we fail suspend. (I'm only talking about user-space tasks here, in the
> context of fuse or inotify.) Why don't cgroups sound right to you?
The cgroup hierarchy is already a mess, and the more different things
you want to stuff in there, the worse it gets.
Also, I still have machines with CGROUP=n.
Also, you'd be putting suspend success in the hands of userspace, that
sounds like a mighty fail right there.
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[not found] <20260819023542.561653-1-senozhatsky@chromium.org>
2026-08-19 10:03 ` [PATCH v2] fuse: permit freezing while waiting for request answer Miklos Szeredi
2026-08-20 4:57 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-08-20 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20 9:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-08-20 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20 9:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-08-20 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-08-20 9:47 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-08-20 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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