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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
Cc: Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, nfsv4@linux-nfs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	casey@schaufler-ca.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/37] Permit filesystem local caching
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:55:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28196.1203605703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200802201907.40406.phillips@phunq.net>

Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net> wrote:

> Have you got before/after benchmark results?

See attached.

These show a couple of things:

 (1) Dealing with lots of metadata slows things down a lot.  Note the result of
     looking and reading lots of small files with tar (the last result).  The
     NFS client has to both consult the NFS server *and* the cache.  Not only
     that, but any asynchronicity the cache may like to do is rendered
     ineffective by the fact tar wants to do a read on a file pretty much
     directly after opening it.

 (2) Getting metadata from the local disk fs is slower than pulling it across
     an unshared gigabit ethernet from a server that already has it in memory.

These points don't mean that fscache is no use, just that you have to consider
carefully whether it's of use to *you* given your particular situation, and
that depends on various factors.

Note that currently FS-Caching is disabled for individual NFS files opened for
writing as there's no way to handle the coherency problems thereby introduced.

David
---

			  ===========================
			  FS-CACHE FOR NFS BENCHMARKS
			  ===========================

 (*) The NFS client has a 1.86GHz Core2 Duo CPU and 1GB of RAM.

 (*) The NFS client has a Seagate ST380211AS 80GB 7200rpm SATA disk on an
     interface running in AHCI mode.  The chipset is an Intel G965.

 (*) A partition of approx 4.5GB is committed to caching, and is formatted as
     Ext3 with a blocksize of 4096 and directory indices.

 (*) The NFS client is using SELinux.

 (*) The NFS server is running an in-kernel NFSd, and has a 2.66GHz Core2 Duo
     CPU and 6GB of RAM.  The chipset is an Intel P965.

 (*) The NFS client is connected to the NFS server by Gigabit Ethernet.

 (*) The NFS mount is made with defaults for all options not relating to the
     cache:

	warthog:/warthog /warthog nfs
		rw,vers=3,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=600,
		retrans=2,sec=sys,fsc,addr=w.x.y.z 0 0


==================
FEW BIG FILES TEST
==================

Where:

 (*) The NFS server has two files:

	[root@andromeda ~]# ls -l /warthog/bigfile
	-rw-rw-r-- 1 4043 4043 104857600 2006-11-30 09:39 /warthog/bigfile
	[root@andromeda ~]# ls -l /warthog/biggerfile 
	-rw-rw-r-- 1 4043 4041 209715200 2006-03-21 13:56 /warthog/biggerfile

     Both of which are in memory on the server in all cases.


No patches, cold NFS cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m1.909s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.520s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m3.750s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.904s

CONFIG_FSCACHE=n, cold NFS cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m2.003s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.124s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m4.100s
	user    0m0.004s
	sys     0m0.488s

Cold NFS cache, no disk cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m2.084s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.136s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m4.020s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.720s

Completely cold caches:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m2.412s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.892s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m4.449s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m2.300s

Warm NFS pagecache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m0.067s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.064s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m0.133s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.136s

Warm Ext3 pagecache, cold NFS pagecache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m0.173s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.172s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m0.316s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.316s

Warm on-disk cache, cold pagecaches:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/bigfile >/dev/null
	real    0m1.955s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.244s
	[root@andromeda ~]# time cat /warthog/biggerfile >/dev/null
	real    0m3.596s
	user    0m0.000s
	sys     0m0.460s


===================================
MANY SMALL/MEDIUM FILE READING TEST
===================================

Where:

 (*) The NFS server has an old kernel tree:

	[root@andromeda ~]# du -s /warthog/aaa
	347340  /warthog/aaa
	[root@andromeda ~]# find /warthog/aaa | wc -l
	20443

     All of which is in memory on the server in all cases.


No patches, cold NFS cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    0m21.698s
	user    0m0.156s
	sys     0m5.284s

CONFIG_FSCACHE=n, cold NFS cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    0m22.337s
	user    0m0.152s
	sys     0m5.476s

Cold NFS cache, no disk cache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    0m22.734s
	user    0m0.124s
	sys     0m5.796s

Completely cold caches:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    0m37.497s
	user    0m0.248s
	sys     0m6.648s

Warm NFS pagecache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    0m15.167s
	user    0m0.168s
	sys     0m4.856s

Warm Ext3 pagecache, cold NFS pagecache:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
	tar: Removing leading `/' from hard link targets

	real    0m13.818s
	user    0m0.200s
	sys     0m5.492s

Warm on-disk cache, cold pagecaches:

	[root@andromeda ~]# time tar cf - /warthog/aaa >/dev/zero
	real    1m54.350s
	user    0m0.044s
	sys     0m1.256s

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-21 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 16:05 [PATCH 00/37] Permit filesystem local caching David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 01/37] KEYS: Increase the payload size when instantiating a key David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 02/37] KEYS: Check starting keyring as part of search David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 03/37] KEYS: Allow the callout data to be passed as a blob rather than a string David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 04/37] KEYS: Add keyctl function to get a security label David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 05/37] Security: Change current->fs[ug]id to current_fs[ug]id() David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 06/37] Security: Separate task security context from task_struct David Howells
2008-02-22  4:47   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 07/37] Security: De-embed task security record from task and use refcounting David Howells
2008-02-22  4:57   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 08/37] Security: Add a kernel_service object class to SELinux David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 09/37] Security: Allow kernel services to override LSM settings for task actions David Howells
2008-02-22  5:06   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-22 13:06     ` David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 10/37] Security: Make NFSD work with detached security David Howells
2008-02-20 16:06 ` [PATCH 11/37] FS-Cache: Release page->private after failed readahead David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 12/37] FS-Cache: Recruit a couple of page flags for cache management David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 13/37] FS-Cache: Provide an add_wait_queue_tail() function David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 14/37] FS-Cache: Generic filesystem caching facility David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 15/37] CacheFiles: Add missing copy_page export for ia64 David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 16/37] CacheFiles: Be consistent about the use of mapping vs file->f_mapping in Ext3 David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 17/37] CacheFiles: Add a hook to write a single page of data to an inode David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 18/37] CacheFiles: Permit the page lock state to be monitored David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 19/37] CacheFiles: Export things for CacheFiles David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 20/37] CacheFiles: A cache that backs onto a mounted filesystem David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 21/37] NFS: Add comment banners to some NFS functions David Howells
2008-02-20 16:07 ` [PATCH 22/37] NFS: Add FS-Cache option bit and debug bit David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 23/37] NFS: Permit local filesystem caching to be enabled for NFS David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 24/37] NFS: Register NFS for caching and retrieve the top-level index David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 25/37] NFS: Define and create server-level objects David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 26/37] NFS: Define and create superblock-level objects David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 27/37] NFS: Define and create inode-level cache objects David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 28/37] NFS: Use local disk inode cache David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 29/37] NFS: Invalidate FsCache page flags when cache removed David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 30/37] NFS: Add some new I/O event counters for FS-Cache events David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 31/37] NFS: FS-Cache page management David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 32/37] NFS: Add read context retention for FS-Cache to call back with David Howells
2008-02-20 16:08 ` [PATCH 33/37] NFS: nfs_readpage_async() needs to be accessible as a fallback for local caching David Howells
2008-02-20 16:09 ` [PATCH 34/37] NFS: Read pages from FS-Cache into an NFS inode David Howells
2008-02-20 16:09 ` [PATCH 35/37] NFS: Store pages from an NFS inode into a local cache David Howells
2008-02-20 16:09 ` [PATCH 36/37] NFS: Display local caching state David Howells
2008-02-20 16:09 ` [PATCH 37/37] NFS: Add mount options to enable local caching on NFS David Howells
2008-02-20 19:58 ` [PATCH 00/37] Permit filesystem local caching Serge E. Hallyn
2008-02-20 20:11 ` David Howells
2008-02-21  3:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-21 12:31 ` David Howells
2008-02-21 14:55 ` David Howells [this message]
2008-02-21 15:17   ` Kevin Coffman
2008-02-21 22:44   ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-21 22:52     ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-02-22  0:07   ` David Howells
2008-02-22  0:57     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-22 12:48     ` David Howells
2008-02-22 22:25       ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-23  1:22       ` David Howells
2008-02-21 23:33 ` David Howells
2008-02-22 13:52   ` Chris Mason
2008-02-22 16:12   ` David Howells
2008-02-22 16:47   ` David Howells
2008-02-25 23:19   ` David Howells
2008-02-26  0:43     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-26  2:00     ` David Howells
2008-02-26 10:26       ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-26 14:33       ` David Howells
2008-02-26 19:43         ` Daniel Phillips
2008-02-26 21:09         ` David Howells
2008-02-22 16:14 ` David Howells
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-22 16:01 Rick Macklem
2008-02-08 16:51 David Howells

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