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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Quentin Barnes <qbarnes+nfs@yahoo-inc.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3] readahead: introduce O_RANDOM for POSIX_FADV_RANDOM
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:46:09 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262361001041746j1270e2d2i79a932efca861dc5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100104121642.GA12266@localhost>

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> Hi Minchan,
>
> On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > --- linux.orig/mm/readahead.c   2010-01-04 12:39:29.000000000 +0800
>> > +++ linux/mm/readahead.c        2010-01-04 12:39:30.000000000 +0800
>> > @@ -501,6 +501,12 @@ void page_cache_sync_readahead(struct ad
>> >        if (!ra->ra_pages)
>> >                return;
>> >
>> > +       /* be dumb */
>> > +       if (filp->f_flags & O_RANDOM) {
>> > +               force_page_cache_readahead(mapping, filp, offset, req_size);
>> > +               return;
>> > +       }
>> > +
>>
>> Let me have a dumb question. :)
>>
>> How about testing O_RANDOM in front of ra_pages testing?
>>
>> My intention is that although we turn off ra, it would be better to read
>> contiguous block all at once than readpage() callback doing I/O
>> one page at a time.
>>
>> Is it break some semantics or happen some problem in ondemand readahead?
>
> Yes it will have some problem with shrink_readahead_size_eio(), which
> want to disable readahead and use ->readpage() when ra_pages==0.
>
> Do you have specific use case in mind? The file systems that set
> ra_pages=0 seems to don't need readahead, too.

Never mind. It's just out of curiosity. :)

I thought although user disable readahead, we could enhance file I/O
with one readpages not multiple readpage if we know the user want to
read big contiguous blocks.

But I though it break current readahead off semantics. right?

Thanks for reply about my dumb question, Wu. :)

>
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
>



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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-05  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091225000717.GA26949@yahoo-inc.com>
     [not found] ` <87aax18xms.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
2009-12-30  5:15   ` [RFC][PATCH] Disabling read-ahead makes I/O of large reads small Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30  5:17     ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] readahead: replace ra->mmap_miss with ra->flags Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30  5:24     ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] readahead: avoid page-by-page reads on POSIX_FADV_RANDOM Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30 18:02       ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-31  1:39         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  2:53           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  3:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  4:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2] readahead: introduce O_RANDOM_READ for POSIX_FADV_RANDOM Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 13:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-09 13:59             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-09 14:01               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04  4:50         ` [RFC][PATCH v3] readahead: introduce O_RANDOM " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04  5:17           ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-04  7:33             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-04 12:56               ` [RFC][PATCH v4] " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  2:03                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-05  2:26                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  2:28                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-05  2:45                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  5:21                         ` Eric Paris
2010-01-05  3:18                       ` [RFC][PATCH v5] " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  3:27                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04 16:50               ` [RFC][PATCH v3] " Quentin Barnes
2010-01-04 18:57                 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-04  5:20           ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-04 12:16             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  1:46               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-01-05  2:16                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  3:40                   ` Minchan Kim

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