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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 12:13:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f66cbfc-aa29-b3ef-4c6a-0da8b29b56f6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YI/CWg6PrMxcCT2D@kernel.org>

On 03.05.21 11:28, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 10:28:36AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 02.05.21 08:34, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 02:25:19PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Let's properly synchronize with drivers that set PageOffline(). Unfreeze
>>>> every now and then, so drivers that want to set PageOffline() can make
>>>> progress.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    fs/proc/kcore.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>>>    1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/fs/proc/kcore.c b/fs/proc/kcore.c
>>>> index 92ff1e4436cb..3d7531f47389 100644
>>>> --- a/fs/proc/kcore.c
>>>> +++ b/fs/proc/kcore.c
>>>> @@ -311,6 +311,7 @@ static void append_kcore_note(char *notes, size_t *i, const char *name,
>>>>    static ssize_t
>>>>    read_kcore(struct file *file, char __user *buffer, size_t buflen, loff_t *fpos)
>>>>    {
>>>> +	size_t page_offline_frozen = 0;
>>>>    	char *buf = file->private_data;
>>>>    	size_t phdrs_offset, notes_offset, data_offset;
>>>>    	size_t phdrs_len, notes_len;
>>>> @@ -509,6 +510,18 @@ read_kcore(struct file *file, char __user *buffer, size_t buflen, loff_t *fpos)
>>>>    			pfn = __pa(start) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
>>>>    			page = pfn_to_online_page(pfn);
>>>
>>> Can't this race with page offlining for the first time we get here?
>>
>>
>> To clarify, we have three types of offline pages in the kernel ...
>>
>> a) Pages part of an offline memory section; the memap is stale and not
>> trustworthy. pfn_to_online_page() checks that. We *can* protect against
>> memory offlining using get_online_mems()/put_online_mems(), but usually
>> avoid doing so as the race window is very small (and a problem all over the
>> kernel we basically never hit) and locking is rather expensive. In the
>> future, we might switch to rcu to handle that more efficiently and avoiding
>> these possible races.
>>
>> b) PageOffline(): logically offline pages contained in an online memory
>> section with a sane memmap. virtio-mem calls these pages "fake offline";
>> something like a "temporary" memory hole. The new mechanism I propose will
>> be used to handle synchronization as races can be more severe, e.g., when
>> reading actual page content here.
>>
>> c) Soft offline pages: hwpoisoned pages that are not actually harmful yet,
>> but could become harmful in the future. So we better try to remove the page
>> from the page allcoator and try to migrate away existing users.
>>
>>
>> So page_offline_* handle "b) PageOffline()" only. There is a tiny race
>> between pfn_to_online_page(pfn) and looking at the memmap as we have in many
>> cases already throughout the kernel, to be tackled in the future.
> 
> Right, but here you anyway add locking, so why exclude the first iteration?

What we're protecting is PageOffline() below. If I didn't mess up, we 
should always be calling page_offline_freeze() before calling 
PageOffline(). Or am I missing something?

> 
> BTW, did you consider something like

Yes, I played with something like that. We'd have to handle the first 
page_offline_freeze() freeze differently, though, and that's where 
things got a bit ugly in my attempts.

> 
> 	if (page_offline_frozen++ % MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES == 0) {
> 		page_offline_unfreeze();
> 		cond_resched();
> 		page_offline_freeze();
> 	}
> 
> We don't seem to care about page_offline_frozen overflows here, do we?

No, the buffer size is also size_t and gets incremented on a per-byte 
basis. The variant I have right now looked the cleanest to me. Happy to 
hear simpler alternatives.


-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 12:25 [PATCH v1 0/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] fs/proc/kcore: drop KCORE_REMAP and KCORE_OTHER David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] fs/proc/kcore: pfn_is_ram check only applies to KCORE_RAM David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] mm: rename and move page_is_poisoned() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-05 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:27       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:45           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  1:08             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  0:56         ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:06           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  7:28             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:55               ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  8:52                 ` Aili Yao
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] mm: introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) to synchronize setting PageOffline() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:24   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 15:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 17:41       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] virtio-mem: use page_offline_(start|end) when " David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  8:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze) David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:34   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  9:28       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 10:13         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-05-03 11:33           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 11:35             ` David Hildenbrand

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