From: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] mm: skip memcg for certain address space
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:27:05 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <304fdaa9-81d8-40ae-adde-d1e91b47b4c0@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZpjDeSrZ40El5ALW@tiehlicka>
在 2024/7/18 16:55, Michal Hocko 写道:
> On Thu 18-07-24 09:17:42, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 7/18/24 12:38 AM, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> [...]
>>> Does the folio order has anything related to the problem or just a
>>> higher order makes it more possible?
>>
>> I didn't spot anything in the memcg charge path that would depend on the
>> order directly, hm. Also what kernel version was showing these soft lockups?
>
> Correct. Order just defines the number of charges to be reclaimed.
> Unlike the page allocator path we do not have any specific requirements
> on the memory to be released.
So I guess the higher folio order just brings more pressure to trigger
the problem?
>
>>> And finally, even without the hang problem, does it make any sense to
>>> skip all the possible memcg charge completely, either to reduce latency
>>> or just to reduce GFP_NOFAIL usage, for those user inaccessible inodes?
>
> Let me just add to the pile of questions. Who does own this memory?
A special inode inside btrfs, we call it btree_inode, which is not
accessible out of the btrfs module, and its lifespan is the same as the
mounted btrfs filesystem.
The inode is kept inside memory (btrfs_fs_info::btree_inode), it's
initialized at the first mount, and released upon the last unmount.
The address_space_operation() are special that it doesn't implement any
read/readahead.
Only write/release/invalidate/migrate functions are implemented.
The read are triggered and handled all inside btrfs itself.
Thanks,
Qu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-18 7:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-10 1:07 [PATCH 0/2] mm: skip memcg for certain address space Qu Wenruo
2024-07-10 1:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: make lru_gen_eviction() to handle folios without memcg info Qu Wenruo
2024-07-10 1:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: allow certain address space to be not accounted by memcg Qu Wenruo
2024-07-17 7:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: skip memcg for certain address space Qu Wenruo
2024-07-17 15:55 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-07-17 16:14 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-17 22:38 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-18 7:17 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-07-18 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:57 ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2024-07-18 8:09 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:10 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:52 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-18 9:25 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:52 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-18 8:28 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-07-18 8:50 ` Qu Wenruo
2024-07-18 9:19 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-07-25 9:00 ` Qu Wenruo
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