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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Boqun Feng' <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	"Luc Maranget" <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Lustig" <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 1/2] introduce test_bit_acquire and use it in wait_on_bit
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 08:00:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <31eb3681cfcf4b238a12a82c175457bc@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YugYuBzIkr+gN5Vi@boqun-archlinux>

From: Boqun Feng
> Sent: 01 August 2022 19:17
> 
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2022 at 12:12:47PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Aug 2022, Will Deacon wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2022 at 06:42:15AM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > >
> > > > Index: linux-2.6/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h
> > > > ===================================================================
> > > > --- linux-2.6.orig/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h	2022-08-01 12:27:43.000000000 +0200
> > > > +++ linux-2.6/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h	2022-08-01 12:27:43.000000000 +0200
> > > > @@ -203,8 +203,10 @@ arch_test_and_change_bit(long nr, volati
> > > >
> > > >  static __always_inline bool constant_test_bit(long nr, const volatile unsigned long *addr)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return ((1UL << (nr & (BITS_PER_LONG-1))) &
> > > > +	bool r = ((1UL << (nr & (BITS_PER_LONG-1))) &
> > > >  		(addr[nr >> _BITOPS_LONG_SHIFT])) != 0;
> > > > +	barrier();
> > > > +	return r;
> > >
> > > Hmm, I find it a bit weird to have a barrier() here given that 'addr' is
> > > volatile and we don't need a barrier() like this in the definition of
> > > READ_ONCE(), for example.
> >
> > gcc doesn't reorder two volatile accesses, but it can reorder non-volatile
> > accesses around volatile accesses.
> >
> > The purpose of the compiler barrier is to make sure that the non-volatile
> > accesses that follow test_bit are not reordered by the compiler before the
> > volatile access to addr.
> >
> 
> Better to have a constant_test_bit_acquire()? I don't think all
> test_bit() call sites need the ordering?

It is also unlikely that the compiler will 'usefully' move a read
across the test_bit() call - which is likely to be in a conditional.
So barrier() is unlikely to significantly affect the generated code.

Indeed, perhaps test_bit() should always enforce read ordering
even one weakly ordered cpu?
It is used with set_bit() and clear_bit() which are expensive
locked operations - so a slightly more expensive test_bit()
probably doesn't matter.

Remember these aren't functions to replace &= and |=.
(In spite of some code paths.)

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-02  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-31 11:43 [PATCH] Add a read memory barrier to wait_on_buffer Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 12:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 13:41   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 15:08     ` [PATCH v2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 22:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01  3:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-01 15:41           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 19:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02  8:54               ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 13:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02 15:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 20:39         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:40           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:40               ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 10:43                 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] change buffer_locked, so that it has acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 14:37                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01 15:01                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-05  3:22                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-07 11:37                         ` [PATCH v5] add barriers to buffer functions Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-07 14:50                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:26                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 14:40                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:57                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-08 15:39                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 18:32                                     ` [PATCH v6] add barriers to buffer_uptodate and set_buffer_uptodate Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-09 19:44                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 22:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:42               ` [PATCH v4 1/2] introduce test_bit_acquire and use it in wait_on_bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 15:54                 ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 16:12                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 18:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-02  8:00                       ` David Laight [this message]
2022-08-02  8:40                     ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 11:38                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-02 13:36                         ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 15:57                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01  0:27             ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Alan Stern
2022-07-31 20:43           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 22:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-31 22:31               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 22:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 20:46           ` [PATCH v2] " Linus Torvalds

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