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From: "Bharata B Rao" <bharata.rao@gmail.com>
To: "Erez Zadok" <ezk@cs.sunysb.edu>
Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>,
	"Phillip Lougher" <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>,
	"Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	"David Newall" <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] [RFC] cramfs: fake write support
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:37:07 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <344eb09a0806012307v8a8c0e4pd4ccfd27825cc0c4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806020437.m524bWiW027508@agora.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu>

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Erez Zadok <ezk@cs.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>
> Nevertheless, I can understand if the embedded community wants lightweight
> unioning.  Union Mounts initially may not support everything that unionfs
> does, but it should be smaller, and it should be enough I believe for the
> basic unioning uses --- perhaps even for the embedded community.  If so,
> then I suggest people offer to help Bharata and Jan Blunk's efforts, rather
> than [sic] cramming unioning into a single file system.
>

Though Union Mount effort has become slow and silent lately, some of
us are still working on it. While I worked on readdir support lately,
Jan Blunck and David Woodhouse are working on having a generic
whiteout support for linux.

Talking about help, Union Mount effort could take a generous help in
getting directory listing implementation right. We first tried to
handle duplicate elimination (during readdir) inside the kernel
entirely. The outcome was neither clean nor efficient.
(http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/12/5/147). Then there was a suggestion to
push the duplicate elimination to userspace. When that was tried out
(http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/29/248), we were told that NFS support is
going to be an issue. (BTW NFS support is going to be an issue
irrespective of where directory listing is implemented: kernel or
userspace). Some insights into  feasibility of supporting NFS with
Union Mount from people who understand NFS better would be very
helpful.

Regards,
Bharata.
-- 
http://bharata.sulekha.com/blog/posts.htm

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-02  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-31 15:37 [RFC 0/7] [RFC] cramfs: fake write support arnd
2008-05-31 18:56 ` David Newall
2008-05-31 20:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-01  3:54     ` Phillip Lougher
2008-06-01  8:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-01 12:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-01 21:49         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02  2:48           ` hooanon05
2008-06-02  3:25             ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02  7:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 18:13                 ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-03  2:02                   ` Phillip Lougher
2008-06-02  3:51             ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02 11:07               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02  4:37             ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-02  6:07               ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2008-06-02  7:17               ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-06-02  7:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 10:36               ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 11:15                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 12:56                   ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 14:13                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 14:33                       ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 15:01                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-03 11:04                           ` hooanon05
2008-06-02 14:54                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-02 17:42                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-02 15:35               ` Erez Zadok
2008-06-01  6:02     ` David Newall
2008-06-01  9:11       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-06-01 16:25       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-01  3:19 ` Phillip Lougher

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