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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] NFSD: leverage DIO alignment to selectively issue O_DIRECT reads and writes
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 10:42:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36698c20-599a-4968-a06c-310204474fe8@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250610205737.63343-6-snitzer@kernel.org>

On 6/10/25 4:57 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> IO must be aligned, otherwise it falls back to using buffered IO.
> 
> RWF_DONTCACHE is _not_ currently used for misaligned IO (even when
> nfsd/enable-dontcache=1) because it works against us (due to RMW
> needing to read without benefit of cache), whereas buffered IO enables
> misaligned IO to be more performant.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> ---
>  fs/nfsd/vfs.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> index e7cc8c6dfbad..a942609e3ab9 100644
> --- a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> +++ b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> @@ -1064,6 +1064,22 @@ __be32 nfsd_splice_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
>  	return nfsd_finish_read(rqstp, fhp, file, offset, count, eof, host_err);
>  }
>  
> +static bool is_dio_aligned(const struct iov_iter *iter, loff_t offset,
> +			   const u32 blocksize)
> +{
> +	u32 blocksize_mask;
> +
> +	if (!blocksize)
> +		return false;
> +
> +	blocksize_mask = blocksize - 1;
> +	if ((offset & blocksize_mask) ||
> +	    (iov_iter_alignment(iter) & blocksize_mask))
> +		return false;
> +
> +	return true;
> +}
> +
>  /**
>   * nfsd_iter_read - Perform a VFS read using an iterator
>   * @rqstp: RPC transaction context
> @@ -1107,8 +1123,16 @@ __be32 nfsd_iter_read(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
>  	trace_nfsd_read_vector(rqstp, fhp, offset, *count);
>  	iov_iter_bvec(&iter, ITER_DEST, rqstp->rq_bvec, v, *count);
>  
> -	if (nfsd_enable_dontcache)
> -		flags |= RWF_DONTCACHE;
> +	if (nfsd_enable_dontcache) {
> +		if (is_dio_aligned(&iter, offset, nf->nf_dio_read_offset_align))
> +			flags |= RWF_DIRECT;
> +		/* FIXME: not using RWF_DONTCACHE for misaligned IO because it works
> +		 * against us (due to RMW needing to read without benefit of cache),
> +		 * whereas buffered IO enables misaligned IO to be more performant.
> +		 */
> +		//else
> +		//	flags |= RWF_DONTCACHE;
> +	}
>  
>  	host_err = vfs_iter_read(file, &iter, &ppos, flags);
>  	return nfsd_finish_read(rqstp, fhp, file, offset, count, eof, host_err);
> @@ -1217,8 +1241,16 @@ nfsd_vfs_write(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
>  	nvecs = xdr_buf_to_bvec(rqstp->rq_bvec, rqstp->rq_maxpages, payload);
>  	iov_iter_bvec(&iter, ITER_SOURCE, rqstp->rq_bvec, nvecs, *cnt);
>  
> -	if (nfsd_enable_dontcache)
> -		flags |= RWF_DONTCACHE;
> +	if (nfsd_enable_dontcache) {
> +		if (is_dio_aligned(&iter, offset, nf->nf_dio_offset_align))
> +			flags |= RWF_DIRECT;
> +		/* FIXME: not using RWF_DONTCACHE for misaligned IO because it works
> +		 * against us (due to RMW needing to read without benefit of cache),
> +		 * whereas buffered IO enables misaligned IO to be more performant.
> +		 */
> +		//else
> +		//	flags |= RWF_DONTCACHE;
> +	}

IMO adding RWF_DONTCACHE first then replacing it later in the series
with a form of O_DIRECT is confusing. Also, why add RWF_DONTCACHE here
and then take it away "because it doesn't work"?

But OK, your series is really a proof-of-concept. Something to work out
before it is merge-ready, I guess.

It is much more likely for NFS READ requests to be properly aligned.
Clients are generally good about that. NFS WRITE request alignment
is going to be arbitrary. Fwiw.

However, one thing we discussed at bake-a-thon was what to do about
unstable WRITEs. For unstable WRITEs, the server has to cache the
write data at least until the client sends a COMMIT. Otherwise the
server will have to convert all UNSTABLE writes to FILE_SYNC writes,
and that can have performance implications.

One thing you might consider is to continue using the page cache for
unstable WRITEs, and then use fadvise DONTNEED after a successful
COMMIT operation to reduce page cache footprint. Unstable writes to
the same range of the file might be a problem, however.


>  	since = READ_ONCE(file->f_wb_err);
>  	if (verf)


-- 
Chuck Lever

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-11 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 20:57 [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11  6:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:44     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:04       ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 13:56     ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 14:31   ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:18     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 20:29       ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 21:36         ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 10:28           ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 11:28             ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12 13:28             ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 14:17               ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-06-12 15:56                 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 15:58                   ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:12                     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 16:32                       ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-13  5:39                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 16:22               ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-13  5:46                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-13  9:23                   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13 13:02                     ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-16 12:35                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 12:29                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-16 16:07                       ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17  4:37                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-17 20:26                           ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 22:23                             ` [RFC PATCH] lib/iov_iter: remove piecewise bvec length checking in iov_iter_aligned_bvec [was: Re: need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages] Mike Snitzer
2025-07-03  0:12             ` need SUNRPC TCP to receive into aligned pages [was: Re: [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO] NeilBrown
2025-06-12  7:13         ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSD: add the ability to enable use of RWF_DONTCACHE for all IO Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 13:15           ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 13:21       ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 16:00         ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-16 13:32           ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-16 16:10             ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:22               ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-17 17:31                 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-19 20:19                   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-30 14:50                     ` Chuck Lever
2025-07-04 19:46                       ` Mike Snitzer
2025-07-04 19:49                         ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSD: filecache: add STATX_DIOALIGN and STATX_DIO_READ_ALIGN support Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSD: pass nfsd_file to nfsd_iter_read() Mike Snitzer
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] fs: introduce RWF_DIRECT to allow using O_DIRECT on a per-IO basis Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11  6:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 10:51     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 14:17     ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12  7:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] NFSD: leverage DIO alignment to selectively issue O_DIRECT reads and writes Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11  7:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 12:23     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 13:30       ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-12  7:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12  7:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:42   ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2025-06-11 15:07     ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 15:11       ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 15:44         ` Jeff Layton
2025-06-11 20:51           ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12  7:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12  7:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12  7:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-10 20:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSD: issue READs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 12:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] NFSD: add enable-dontcache and initially use it to add DIO support Jeff Layton
2025-06-12  7:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-12 20:37     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-13  5:31       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-11 14:16 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 18:02   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-11 19:06     ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-11 19:58       ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 13:46 ` Chuck Lever
2025-06-12 19:08   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-06-12 20:17     ` Chuck Lever

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