From: Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@gmail.com>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: fs/crypto: root read-access without key
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 01:13:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <367bee98-c33f-85b4-9903-b46d0c8c0213@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170217044315.GB634@zzz>
Hi Eric,
> This is incorrect because for a file there is one only inode system-wide, not
> one inode per user (or per process). So everyone will either see the key in the
> inode or not.
Well I didn't say inode per user. As I said inode has Key pointer,
and if its not for the file-name then there is no requisite to check
key during directory lookup, which apparently seems to be reason
for the performance hit.
> There are actually several separate protections against such attacks. First,
> the encryption of both contents and filenames makes it more difficult (though
> not necessarily impossible) to identify target files.
Well its not done in the right way. as below.
> Not encrypting filenames would not be the end of the world, but it's a security
> enhancement which is nice to have. And I think you are blaming filenames
> encryption specifically for things which are actually more general concerns.
An identifiable dir/file name isn't the problem. The problem is that
the policy on the directory is modifiable/removable by the attacker.
Encrypting the file name for this purpose is just not convincing to
me.
Thanks, Anand
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-17 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-14 10:18 fs/crypto: root read-access without key Anand Jain
2017-02-14 10:48 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-02-14 12:50 ` Anand Jain
2017-02-14 13:30 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-02-14 15:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-02-14 19:00 ` Al Viro
2017-02-15 15:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-02-15 8:04 ` Anand Jain
2017-02-17 4:43 ` Eric Biggers
2017-02-17 17:13 ` Anand Jain [this message]
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