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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dongsheng Yang <yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, kernel@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: UBIFS quota support
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:46:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3682938.yUD6jHpT9R@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190123094305.7owpfwzgtzz2snat@pengutronix.de>

Sascha,

Am Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2019, 10:43:05 CET schrieb Sascha Hauer:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:07:12AM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:45 PM Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm currently working on resurrecting the UBIFS quota patches posted back in
> > > 2015 by Dongsheng Yang, last posted here:
> > >
> > > http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2015-September/061812.html
> > >
> > > First of all I think work stopped there, there is no newer UBIFS quota
> > > support I am missing, right?
> > >
> > > One problem with this series was that the quotactl systemcall expects a
> > > path to a block device. UBIFS doesn't work on a block device but on a
> > > character device instead.
> > > The solution in this series was to pass the path to the cdev in
> > > quotactl.  A struct cdev * member was added to struct super_block which
> > > was used to identify the superblock for a given cdev. This approach was
> > > rejected by Christoph ("I don't think the cdev has any business in core
> > > VFS code.").  Apart from that UBIFS can not only be mounted with a path
> > > to the character device (mount -t ubifs /dev/ubix_y /mnt) but also in
> > > the form ubix:volname (mount -t ubifs ubix:volname /mnt) in which case
> > > userspace doesn't have any valid path it could pass in quotactl.
> > >
> > > An idea out of this would be to allow to pass the mountpoint instead of
> > > the path to the block device in quotactl which would work with nfs or
> > > even tmpfs aswell. Would that be acceptable? Any other ideas?
> > 
> > *kind ping*
> > 
> > Jan, another thing Sascha and I are not sure about, what are the consistency
> > constraints of the quota file?
> > If I read the code correctly, quota just writes to the quota file and
> > assumes that
> > the file system makes sure about consistency. Either by fsckfixing the quota
> > file or having a data journal for the quota file.
> > In case of UBIFS where we have a data journal this should be doable.
> > Is it okay when the quota file has S_SYNC set?
> 
> S_SYNC won't help us. We need to make sure that a change of an inode and
> the corresponding update to the quota file is done atomically. Otherwise
> it may happen that we only change the size of an inode, but miss the
> corresponding quota updates, or depending on the implementation, maybe
> the other way round.

This is why I said yesterday you need to touch the UBIFS journal replay code too.
So, S_SYNC is not to keep the quota file consistent with UBIFS' state, it is
to make sure we don't lose quota updates.
Skipping S_SYNC is also possible, but then you need to fix up even more stuff
in the replay code.

Thanks,
//richard



  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-23  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-10 11:44 UBIFS quota support Sascha Hauer
2019-01-10 11:44 ` Sascha Hauer
2019-01-22 23:07 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-01-23  9:43   ` Sascha Hauer
2019-01-23  9:46     ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2019-01-23  9:55       ` Sascha Hauer
2019-01-23 10:47         ` Richard Weinberger
2019-01-23 15:47   ` Jan Kara
2019-01-25  9:21     ` Sascha Hauer
2019-01-28  8:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 12:45       ` Jan Kara
2019-01-31  7:37         ` Sascha Hauer

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