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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:47:39 -0700
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Linus Torvalds wrote:

>
>  
>
>>>And you might not be able to change the 
>>>permissions or date on the named stream either, since it may or may not 
>>>have a separate date/permission thing from the container.
>>>      
>>>
>>You should be able to change the permission and data,
>>
^data^date

>> but when you 
>>change it, you change it for the whole container.
>>    
>>
>
>Why? I'd much rather disallow it, than allow it and then have "nonlocal" 
>effects.
>  
>
Sometimes you want the nonlocal effects and sometimes you don't, and by 
decomposing streams into smaller primitives we can let users choose as 
they want.