From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:16:12 -0700 Message-ID: <41380C2C.1030609@namesys.com> References: <20040826150202.GE5733@mail.shareable.org> <200408282314.i7SNErYv003270@localhost.localdomain> <20040901200806.GC31934@mail.shareable.org> <1094118362.4847.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040902203854.GA4801@janus> <1094160994.31499.19.camel@shaggy.austin.ibm.com> <20040902214806.GA5272@janus> <20040902220027.GD23987@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> <4137B5F5.8000402@slaphack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Frank van Maarseveen , Dave Kleikamp , Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Jamie Lokier , Horst von Brand , Adrian Bunk , Christoph Hellwig , fsdevel , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com To: David Masover In-Reply-To: <4137B5F5.8000402@slaphack.com> List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org I don't think streams are a good thing, I think that all of the different pieces of additional functionality necessary to emulate them with files and directories are a good thing. Keeping streams out of linux was one of the (less important) ideas behind reiser4. Streams are a rigid hack. The toolkit that can emulate them, is useful, and the perceived importance of that emulation will fade as people start to use the toolkit for things that are much more fun than streams. I agree with most of the rest of what you say though David. Hans David Masover wrote: > File-as-a-dir has numerous advantages, but enough have been discussed. > Short list is image mounts, tarballs, streams, metas, and namespace > unification. Longer list and explanations can be found if you RTFA.