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From: Jeffrey Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: "Kathy KN (HK)" <kathy.kn@gmail.com>,
	Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Access content of file via inodes
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:09:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4253DFA5.6000705@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1112787226.21605.27.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk>

Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> Jeff Mahoney wrote:
> 
>>Kathy KN (HK) wrote:
>>
>>>What I meant by via blocks is to gain knowledge of the physical
>>>blocks used by the inodes and retrieve the content from it directly,
>>>by accessing b_data.
>>
>>The problem with that approach is that some filesystems may store part
>>of the file outside of a complete block. For example, reiserfs "tails"
>>will respond with -ENOENT on ->bmap. For files smaller than 16k, they
>>are quite common.
> 
> 
> This is one not true and two wrong!
> 
> Looking at reiserfs code in the current 2.6 kernel it does:
[...]
> This will result in sparse blocks being returned whenever an error
> occurs.  Not what is desired...
> 
> <rant>
> The problem with ->bmap is that it cannot return error at all.  It
> either returns 0 for sparse or >0 for real block.  ->bmap is the most
> stupid interface I have ever seen...  )-:  If you ask me it should be
> removed from the kernel without notice.  Let all applications that use
> it break.  Who cares...  It can always be replaced with a sensible
> interface that returns errors like -ESPARSE, -ENOTAPPLICABLE, -EIO,
> -ENOMEM, etc and doesn't assume that 0 is sparse...
> </rant>

Ugh. Mea culpa. I knew reiserfs_bmap would return less than useful
results, and stopped there. I should have dug a little deeper.

-Jeff

-- 
Jeff Mahoney
SuSE Labs
jeffm@suse.com

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-06 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-05  1:23 Access content of file via inodes Kathy KN
2005-04-05  7:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 17:53 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-06  1:27   ` Kathy KN (HK)
2005-04-06  1:53     ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-04-06 17:57       ` Bryan Henderson
2005-04-06  7:54     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-06 11:33     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-06 13:09       ` Jeffrey Mahoney [this message]
2005-04-07  5:25       ` Kathy KN (HK)
2005-04-07  6:47         ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2005-04-07  8:09           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-05 19:01 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-04-06  1:32   ` Kathy KN (HK)
2005-04-06  1:50     ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-04-08  6:01   ` Kathy KN (HK)
2005-04-08  8:17     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-05-27 19:13       ` Martin Jambor
2005-05-28 15:57         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-05-28 21:44           ` Martin Jambor
2005-05-29  7:26             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-05-30 21:51               ` Martin Jambor
2005-05-30 22:19                 ` Anton Altaparmakov

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