From: "William H. Taber" <wtaber@us.ibm.com>
To: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC PATCH]autofs4: hang and proposed fix
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:31:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <437D04AF.8000704@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132259960.5720.177.camel@localhost>
Ram Pai wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 11:19, William H. Taber wrote:
>
>>Ian Kent wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Ram Pai wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The question is: Who is the culprit? stubfs? VFS? or
>>>> autofs4?
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm happy to fix it in autofs unless you feel we need to address the wider
>>>issue.
>>>
>>>I'll put together a patch which takes account of this and pushes the
>>>hold/release down into try_to_fill_dentry. But I would like a little
>>>time to think about whether there may be other implications.
>>>
>>
>>Ian,
>>I don't think that you can fix this in the autofs by tinkering with
>>holding and releasing the parent i_sem. The reason for this is that you
>> don't have any way of knowing if you hold that lock or not. The easy
>>case is that nobody holds the lock. But if the lock is held you have no
>>way to know that you are the person holding the lock and you cannot
>>unlock someone elses lock without serious consequences.
>>
>>The only way to fix the lock handling is to fix the VFS. This means
>>either changing all calls to the d_revalidate functions (or all calls to
>>d_revalidate itself) so that the parent i_sem is obtained first, or to
>>change lookup_one_len (or actually lookup_hash) to only get the lock
>>around the filesystem lookup call, matching what is done in real_lookup.
>> I don't know which is better from a locking correctness perspective.
>>I would have to defer to the VFS experts on that one. I do know that
>>lookup_one_len is called from about 40 places in kernel tree and
>>probably from every filesystem outside the tree as well. Either way, it
>>is a non-trivial piece of work.
>>
>>If you take the inconsistant locking as a given, then the fix has to
>>involve not doing the d_add on the new dentry until after the mount
>>completes. This would eliminate the need for revalidate to wait. You
>>would have to provide a mechanism for keeping track of the outstanding
>>mount requests and looking for a a mount in progress before starting a
>>new request. This would take the waiting out of revalidate and put it
>>into the lookup request itself where you are guaranteed that the parent
>>i_sem lock is held.
>
>
> Even this has a issue I think. Because later when the automounter
> attempts to mount, VFS wont' find the corresponding dentry in the dcache
> and will allocate a new dentry. And this dentry is not the one which
> autofs4 is waiting to be mounted on. No?
>
> RP
>
That would be bad. So maybe I should just wait for someone who
understands the automounter better than I do to come up with an idea. :^)
Will Taber
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-17 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-16 10:17 [RFC PATCH]autofs4: hang and proposed fix Ram Pai
2005-11-16 12:41 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2005-11-16 16:50 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-16 22:57 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-17 1:52 ` [autofs] " Ram Pai
2005-11-17 18:50 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-17 19:19 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-17 20:39 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-17 22:31 ` William H. Taber [this message]
2005-11-18 14:57 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 14:54 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 14:44 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 15:20 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-18 16:30 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 17:12 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-18 18:57 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-18 20:08 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-19 2:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-21 16:40 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-22 13:13 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-22 17:48 ` [autofs] " William H. Taber
2005-11-23 14:11 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-23 16:42 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-23 17:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-23 18:47 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-19 1:40 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-16 15:22 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-16 17:00 ` [autofs] " Ram Pai
2005-11-16 18:25 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-16 19:24 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-16 19:51 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-27 10:47 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-28 17:19 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-28 23:12 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-29 14:19 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-29 16:34 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 14:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:49 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-30 17:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 21:10 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-29 14:20 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 1:16 ` [autofs] " Jeff Moyer
2005-11-30 1:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 4:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-30 6:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 15:44 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 15:53 ` [autofs] " Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 16:12 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:27 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:45 ` [autofs] " Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 20:32 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 20:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 21:30 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 22:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-01 16:27 ` William H. Taber
2005-12-01 12:09 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-01 16:30 ` William H. Taber
2005-12-02 13:49 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 14:07 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-02 15:21 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 16:35 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-02 17:11 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 15:34 ` Will Taber
2005-12-02 17:29 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 18:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-04 12:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 12:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 14:58 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-04 17:17 ` [autofs] " Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 14:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-06 21:20 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-06 21:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-06 22:37 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-07 14:52 ` Will Taber
2005-12-07 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-07 15:22 ` Brian Long
2005-12-07 15:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-07 17:46 ` Will Taber
2005-12-08 14:16 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-09 12:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-09 13:33 ` John T. Kohl
2005-12-13 18:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 14:56 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 19:04 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-04 9:39 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 16:04 ` [autofs] " Jeff Moyer
2005-12-02 17:36 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 18:33 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-04 9:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-04 14:54 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-05 15:40 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 14:48 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
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