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From: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: nfs@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] NFS: Improving the access cache
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:51:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <444F88EF.5090105@RedHat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17486.64825.942642.594218@cse.unsw.edu.au>



Neil Brown wrote:
> - There is no upper bound imposed on the size of the cache, and no way
>   for memory pressure to shrink the cache except indirectly by
>   discarding inodes.
>   I cannot see this being exploitable as getting access to lots of
>   credentials would be hard for any given user.  However I feel that
>   some cleaning might be in order.
I guess there is no upper bound checking because I didn't see any type
of boundary checking the server hashing code I stoled 8-) Or maybe
I just missed it... Is there an example and what would trigger
this cleanup?

> - The nfs_zap_access_cache call isn't cheap.  If that could be
>   amortised somehow it would be good.  Maybe use some version tagging
>   so that when an inode is reused the access entry will no longer
>   match in some way.  Then just clean the table by periodic scans that
>   discard based on timeout information ?
yes.. I did realize that ifs_zap_access_cache would be expensive...
and I think there might be an issue with holding the access_hash lock
spin lock while calling put_rpccred() since it can also take out
another spin lock... Maybe I just spin through the table marking
entries for deletion and then let somebody else clean them up??
Is there already a clean up process that I would us? I don't
recall one...

> 
> It occurs to me that the large majority of inodes will only be
> accessed by a single user and so need not reside in the cache.
> 
> So how about having a single "struct nfs_access_entry" pointer in the
> inode.
> When we do a lookup we look there first.
> When we want to add an entry, we try to add it there first.
> When we end up with two current access entries for the same inode,
> only then do we insert them into the hash.
To rephrase to make sure I understand....
1) P1(uid=1) creates an access pointer in the nfs_inode
2) P2(uid=2) sees the access pointer is not null so it adds them both
    to the table, right?

> We would need to be able to tell from the inode whether anything is
> hashed or not.  This could simply be if the nfs_access_entry point is
> non-null, and its hashlist it non-empty.  Or we could just use a bit
> flag somewhere.
So I guess it would be something like:
if (nfs_inode->access == null)
     set nfs_inode->access
if (nfs_inode->access =! NULL && nfs_inode->access_hash == empty)
     move both pointer into hast able.
if (nfs_inode->access == null && nfs_inode->access_hash != empty)
     use hastable.

But now the question is how would I know when there is only one
entry in the table? Or do we just let the hash table "drain"
naturally and when it become empty we start with the nfs_inode->access
pointer again... Is this close to what your thinking??

steved.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-26 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-26  1:14 [PATCH][RFC] NFS: Improving the access cache Steve Dickson
2006-04-26  1:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-04-26  4:55 ` Neil Brown
2006-04-26 14:51   ` Steve Dickson [this message]
2006-04-26 22:32     ` Neil Brown
2006-05-02  9:49       ` Steve Dickson
2006-05-02 13:51         ` [NFS] " Peter Staubach
2006-05-02 14:38           ` Steve Dickson
2006-05-02 14:51             ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-02 15:26               ` [NFS] " Ian Kent
2006-05-03  4:42         ` Chuck Lever
2006-05-05 14:07           ` Steve Dickson
2006-05-05 14:53             ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-05 14:59               ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-06 14:35               ` [NFS] " Steve Dickson
2006-05-08 14:07                 ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-08 17:09                   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-05-08 17:20                     ` Peter Staubach
2006-05-08  2:44           ` Neil Brown
2006-05-08  3:23             ` Chuck Lever
2006-05-08  3:28               ` Neil Brown
2006-04-26 13:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-04-26 13:14   ` Peter Staubach
2006-04-26 14:01     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-04-26 14:15       ` Peter Staubach
2006-04-26 15:44         ` Trond Myklebust
2006-04-26 17:01           ` Peter Staubach
2006-04-26 15:03   ` Steve Dickson
2006-04-26 13:17 ` [NFS] " Chuck Lever
2006-04-26 14:19   ` Steve Dickson

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