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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Jeff Anderson-Lee <jonah@eecs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: petabyte class archival filestore wanted/proposed
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:53:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <449AF53B.10103@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <449AC8A0.6020108@eecs.berkeley.edu>

Jeff Anderson-Lee wrote:
> I'm part of a project at University of California Berkeley that is 
> trying to put together a predominantly archival file system for petabyte 
> class data stores using Linux with clusters of commodity server 
> hardware.  We currently have multiple terabytes of hardware on top of 
> which we intend to build such a system.  However, our hope is that the 
> end system would be useful for a wide range of users from someone with 3 
> large disk or three disk servers to groups with 3 or more distributed 
> storage sites.
> 
> Main Goals/Features:
>    1) Tapeless: maintain multiple copies on disk (minimize 
> backup/restore lag)
>    2) "Mirroring" across remote sites: for disaster recovery (we sit on 
> top of  the Hayward Fault)
>    3) Persistent snapshots: as archival copies instead of backup/restore 
> scanning
>    4) Copy-On-Write: in support of snapshots/archives
>    5) Append-mostly log structured file system: make synchronization of 
> remote mirrors easier (tail the log).
>    6) Avoid (insofar as possible) single point of failure and 
> bottlenecks (for scalability)
> 
> I've looked into the existing file systems I know about, and none of 
> them seem to fit the bill.
> 
> Parts of the Open Solaris ZFS file system looks interesting, except (a) 
> it is not on Linux and (b) seems to mix together too many levels (volume 
> manager and file system).  I can see how using some of the concepts and 
> implementing something like it on top of an append-mostly distributed 
> logical device might work however.  By splitting the project into two 
> parts ((a) a robust, distributed logical block device and (b) a flexible 
> file system with snapshots)  it might make it easier to design and build.
> 
> Before we begin however, it is important to find out:
>    1) Is there anything sufficiently like this to either (a) use 
> instead, or (b) start from.
>    2) Is there community support for insertion in the main kernel tree 
> (without which it is just another toy project)?
>    3) Anyone care to join in (a) design, (b) implementation, or (c) 
> testing?

I would recommend checking out Venti:
http://cm.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/venti.html



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-22 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-22 16:43 petabyte class archival filestore wanted/proposed Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-06-22 18:19 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-06-22 18:58   ` Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-06-23  0:57     ` Bryan Henderson
2006-06-22 19:53 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-06-22 20:29   ` Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-06-23  4:26 ` Andreas Dilger

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