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From: Roger Heflin <rheflin@atipa.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Xin Zhao <uszhaoxin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's the NFS OOM problem?
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:29:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44E46F3A.9000608@atipa.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17635.63709.848914.895135@cse.unsw.edu.au>

Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday August 15, rheflin@atipa.com wrote:
>> I have noticed on SLES kernels that when the dirty_*ratios turned down it
>> still uses alot more memory than it should work writeback buffers, it makes
>> me think that with the default setting of 40% that it for some reason
>> may be using all of memory and deadlocking.   It does not seem like an
>> NFS only issue, as I believe I have duplicated it with a fast lock
>> setup.
> 
> We seem to have a little patch in SuSE kernels that might be making
> the problem worse .... though I presume it was introduced for a
> reason.  I haven't managed to track what that reason was yet.
> 
> What is "a fast lock setup"??  I don't understand.
> 
> NeilBrown
> 

I am not sure what I ment, I may have ment a fast disk setup, and
thought or typed the wrong thing.  The machine I duplicated it with
had disks that would sustain 175MB/second (3 striped), 4cpus with local
ram of 32GB.   The 2 cpu/4GB/100MB/second machine does not seem
to have the issue.   Both machines are opterons, I believe I duplicated
it under SP2, I know I duplicated it SP3 and one of the
post-SP3 kernels.   It did not occur under SP1.

Turning down the dirty*ratios seems to make it go away.   When I
get a chance I will retest on SP2 and see if it happens there.

I do know (and this may be related) that if on a 32GB machine I
pagelock a large portion of ram (say 28GB) that machine will deadlock
under high IO.  The basic symptoms are similar to the writeback
issue the machine responds to ping/sysrq, but logins fail, and any
new process creation fails.

                                  Roger

      reply	other threads:[~2006-08-17 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-08 22:24 What's the NFS OOM problem? Xin Zhao
2006-08-09  2:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-10  4:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-08-10 21:53   ` Grant Coady
2006-08-11  0:33   ` Neil Brown
2006-08-11  3:57     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-08-11  4:24       ` Neil Brown
2006-08-11  8:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-08-14  2:03       ` Neil Brown
2006-08-15 18:24     ` Roger Heflin
2006-08-17  5:04       ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17 13:29         ` Roger Heflin [this message]

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