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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
Cc: Linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	"Clark, Nathan" <Clark_Nathan@emc.com>,
	"Singh, Arvinder" <Singh_Arvinder@emc.com>,
	"De Smet, Jochen" <DeSmet_Jochen@emc.com>,
	"Farmer, Matt" <Farmer_Matt@emc.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, "Mizar,
	Sunita" <Mizar_Sunita@emc.com>
Subject: Re: end to end error recovery musings
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:03:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45DF80C9.5080606@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45DEF6EF.3020509@emc.com>

Ric Wheeler wrote:
> 
> We still have the following challenges:
> 
>    (1) read-ahead often means that we will  retry every bad sector at 
> least twice from the file system level. The first time, the fs read 
> ahead request triggers a speculative read that includes the bad sector 
> (triggering the error handling mechanisms) right before the real 
> application triggers a read does the same thing.  Not sure what the 
> answer is here since read-ahead is obviously a huge win in the normal case.
> 

Probably the only sane thing to do is to remember the bad sectors and 
avoid attempting reading them; that would mean marking "automatic" 
versus "explicitly requested" requests to determine whether or not to 
filter them against a list of discovered bad blocks.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-24  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-23 14:15 end to end error recovery musings Ric Wheeler
2007-02-24  0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-02-24  0:37   ` Andreas Dilger
2007-02-24  2:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-24  2:32     ` Theodore Tso
2007-02-24 18:39       ` Chris Wedgwood
2007-02-26  5:33       ` Neil Brown
2007-02-26 13:25         ` Theodore Tso
2007-02-26 15:15           ` Alan
2007-02-26 15:18             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-26 17:01               ` Alan
2007-02-26 16:42                 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-26 15:17           ` James Bottomley
2007-02-26 18:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-26 22:46           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-26 22:53             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-27  1:19               ` Alan
2007-02-26  6:01   ` Douglas Gilbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-27  1:10 Moore, Eric
2007-02-27 16:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-27 18:51   ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-27 19:02   ` Alan
2007-02-27 18:39     ` Andreas Dilger
2007-02-27 19:07     ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-27 23:39       ` Alan
2007-02-27 22:51         ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 13:46           ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-02-28 17:16             ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 17:30               ` James Bottomley
2007-02-28 17:42                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 17:52                   ` James Bottomley
2007-03-01  1:28                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-01 14:25                       ` James Bottomley
2007-03-01 17:19                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-28 15:19       ` Moore, Eric

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