From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>,
Linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
"Clark, Nathan" <Clark_Nathan@emc.com>,
"Singh, Arvinder" <Singh_Arvinder@emc.com>,
"De Smet, Jochen" <DeSmet_Jochen@emc.com>,
"Farmer, Matt" <Farmer_Matt@emc.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, "Mizar,
Sunita" <Mizar_Sunita@emc.com>
Subject: Re: end to end error recovery musings
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:46:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45E3634E.9000505@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070226132511.GB8154@thunk.org>
Theodore Tso wrote:
> Can someone with knowledge of current disk drive behavior confirm that
> for all drives that support bad block sparing, if an attempt to write
> to a particular spot on disk results in an error due to bad media at
> that spot, the disk drive will automatically rewrite the sector to a
> sector in its spare pool, and automatically redirect that sector to
> the new location. I believe this should be always true, so presumably
> with all modern disk drives a write error should mean something very
> serious has happend.
This is what will /probably/ happen. The drive should indeed find a
spare sector and remap it, if the write attempt encounters a bad spot on
the media.
However, with a large enough write, large enough bad-spot-on-media, and
a firmware programmed to never take more than X seconds to complete
their enterprise customers' I/O, it might just fail.
IMO, somewhere in the kernel, when we receive a read-op or write-op
media error, we should immediately try to plaster that area with small
writes. Sure, if it's a read-op you lost data, but this method will
maximize the chance that you can refresh/reuse the logical sectors in
question.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-26 22:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-23 14:15 end to end error recovery musings Ric Wheeler
2007-02-24 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-24 0:37 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-02-24 2:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-24 2:32 ` Theodore Tso
2007-02-24 18:39 ` Chris Wedgwood
2007-02-26 5:33 ` Neil Brown
2007-02-26 13:25 ` Theodore Tso
2007-02-26 15:15 ` Alan
2007-02-26 15:18 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-26 17:01 ` Alan
2007-02-26 16:42 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-26 15:17 ` James Bottomley
2007-02-26 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-26 22:46 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-02-26 22:53 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-27 1:19 ` Alan
2007-02-26 6:01 ` Douglas Gilbert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-27 1:10 Moore, Eric
2007-02-27 16:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-27 18:51 ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-27 19:02 ` Alan
2007-02-27 18:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-02-27 19:07 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-27 23:39 ` Alan
2007-02-27 22:51 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 13:46 ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-02-28 17:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 17:30 ` James Bottomley
2007-02-28 17:42 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-02-28 17:52 ` James Bottomley
2007-03-01 1:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-01 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2007-03-01 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-28 15:19 ` Moore, Eric
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