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From: "David H. Lynch Jr" <dhlii@comcast.net>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:32:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46187059.9010700@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14921.1175967598@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>
> (And for those who talk about backups - yes, taking backups is good.
> However, it's the rare laptop or desktop machine that can afford the
> luxury of RAID disks, and backups usually happen once a night, if that
> often.  This means that if you've been working hard on something important
> all day, and the disk blows chunks at 4:30PM, you *will* be suddenly very
> concerned over exactly how much you can recover off the failing drive....
    Been there done, that. I am not sure that RAID is physically
practical for a laptop, but it may be
    substantially more practical and economical for a desktop or home
server, than the hope that
    a home user might backup a system.

    I am sure that there are plenty of people with true stories of
backup systems saving their lives.
    But my personal history involves systems with no backup, systems
with poor backup,
    systems with wishful backup, and finally systems with failed backup.
    My first experience with tape drivers was disassembling and patching
a QIC driver (not Linux)
    because small portions of the backup tape were unreadable (the
client smoked while backing the system up)
    and the tape software thought recovery was an all or nothing
proposition.

    My first personal rule of data disaster recovery is start with the
data on the disk.
    I have only had rare instances where 99% of the data on a disk was
not readable and recoverable -
    though for some reason the most critical data is always in that 1%
that puts up a fight.
    Backup systems are what you go to after you have recovered
everything possible from the disk.


   


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-08  4:32 UTC|newest]

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2007-04-06  4:32             ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER johnrobertbanks
     [not found]               ` <20070406152119.GC4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2007-04-07  2:47                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  3:30                   ` Jan Harkes
2007-04-07  5:58                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:15                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-07 13:47                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 14:11                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 15:07                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:05                           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-07 17:10                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08 16:31                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-07 17:21                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  0:41                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 17:39                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  4:32                     ` David H. Lynch Jr [this message]
2007-04-07 19:17               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  0:44                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:27                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  2:56                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08  4:13                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 12:48                       ` Jose Celestino
2007-04-08 13:21                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 14:14                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-08 17:03                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 18:18                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-08  4:32                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-04-08 21:50                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 22:58                       ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09  5:14                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-09  7:07                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-09 16:10                           ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09  1:24                       ` Christer Weinigel
2007-04-09  3:38                         ` David H. Lynch Jr
2007-04-09  3:16                       ` David H. Lynch Jr
2007-04-09  4:25                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-09 18:35                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Nate Diller
2007-04-08  4:06                 ` David H. Lynch Jr
2007-04-08  9:58                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09  2:52                     ` David H. Lynch Jr
2007-04-09  3:14                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09  4:40                         ` David H. Lynch Jr
2007-04-09  4:58                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]   ` <1175909205.905.1183425104@webmail.messagingengine.com>
2007-04-07  7:45     ` COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:57       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:11         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 12:59 Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Dale Amon
2007-04-07 15:28 ` johnrobertbanks

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