Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel

["David H. Lynch Jr" <dhlii@comcast.net>]

johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm wrote:
> Christer Weinigel: Until YOU, have actually used the REISER4 filesystem
> yourself, I think YOU OWE IT to the people on the linux-kernel mailing
> list, to, AS YOU SAY, shut the fuck up. 
>
> Even reading up on the REISER4 filesystem would help. 
>
> Applying a little intelligence would undoubtedly help too.
>   
    John;
       I would like to see Reiser4 get into the Kernel too. But angry
rhetoric ... is not going to do it.
       If it was enough Hans did a much better job of insulting the
naysayers without resulting to vulgarity,
       And it got him pretty much nowhere.

       It is my personal oppinion that the reason Reiser4 did not reach
the kernel long ago
       was because Hans pissed all over way to many people.
   
       Making this about people will serve no one. We can all call each
other assholes, go home feeling vindicated,
       but Reiser4 will be no closer to the kernel, and any potential
that anyone might have benefited from that will just be
       pissed away.

    After that the statistics you are reporting are not TOTALLY meaningless.
    But they are also not compelling.

    It is not wise to be arguing benchmarks anyway.
    I hope that few on this list are not willing to conceed that Reiser4
is fast.
    Whether it is 10% slower than the best or 3 times as fast is
probably not relevant to whether it gets included.

    All the worst case scenarious of Reiser4 performance and behavior
should all still be sufficient to justify
    letting it in as Experimental.

    You can argue your benchmarks forever.
    Your benchmark has narrow applicability - pretty much every
benchmark will.
    And all you do is provoke a firestorm of debate over whether
compressing zeros means anything,
    whether compression is even a good idea, whether, ......
    The answer to ALL of these questions will be "it depends"
   
    I have dealt with huge data sets that were mostly zero's, a file
system that had a factor of 3 space savings and or performance benefit
     might have mattered alot there - but they are not the norm.
    I have dealt with instances where compression increased performance
rather than decreased it.
    Every "feature" of Reiser4 is an asset in some environments and a
liability in others.
    Whether it is suitable for most environments is nto going to be
established by a benchmark.

   
   
   
   

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