From: "Jeffrey V. Merkey" <jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com>
To: Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>
Cc: Jack Stone <jack@hawkeye.stone.uk.eu.org>,
alan <alan@clueserver.org>,
hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: Versioning file system
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:03:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46744225.7000609@wolfmountaingroup.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070616164931.GF14788@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
Jan Harkes wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:12:14AM -0600, Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>
>
>>Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>over). There's also another patent filed as well. It's a noble
>>>effort to do a free version, but be aware there's some big guns with
>>>patents out there already, not to mention doing this is complex beyond
>>>belief.
>>>
>>>
>>I reviewed your sample implementation, and it appears to infringe 3
>>patents already. You should do some research on this. ~~~~
>>
>>
>
>First of all, you are responding to someone in the UK, I thought they
>didn't even have software patents over there. Second, I didn't see any
>implementation, just a high level description. Finally advising anyone
>(who is not an actual patent lawyer that could correctly interpret the
>language and scope of a patent) to go search out patents seems pretty
>bad advice. That can only result in not even attempting to research some
>potentially new and innovative approach.
>
>Researching prior published work in the area is considerably more
>helpful. Especially when something is complex beyond belief it has
>probably attracted various researchers over time and there are most
>likely various different solutions that have been explored previously.
>Such existing work can form a good basis for further work.
>
>Finally, even if there are patents they could be too limited in scope,
>overly broad, can be invalidated due to prior art. It may also be
>possible that a patent holder has no problem granting a royalty free
>license for a GPL licensed implementation.
>
>Jan
>
>
>
>
When you get into the recycling issues with storage, the patents come
into play. Also, using the file name to reference revisions is already
the subject of a patent previously filed (I no longer own the patent, I
sold them to Canopy). There is a third one about to be issued.
The patents are:
*
6,862,609
**6,795,895
and this one about to be issued:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/fetch.jsp?LANG=ENG&DBSELECT=PCT&SERVER_TYPE=19&SORT=1211506-KEY&TYPE_FIELD=256&IDB=0&IDOC=1205953&C=10&ELEMENT_SET=IA,WO,TTL-EN&RESULT=1&TOTAL=3&START=1&DISP=25&FORM=SEP-0/HITNUM,B-ENG,DP,MC,PA,ABSUM-ENG&SEARCH_IA=US2005045566&QUERY=%28IN%2fmerkey%29+
The last one was filed with WIPO and has international protection, UK
included.
Jeff
*
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-16 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-15 22:23 Versioning file system Jack Stone
2007-06-15 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 22:51 ` alan
2007-06-15 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 23:06 ` alan
2007-06-16 8:11 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16 9:46 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 10:12 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 13:15 ` Mark Williamson
2007-06-16 19:57 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 16:49 ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-16 20:03 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey [this message]
2007-06-16 19:38 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16 20:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-16 21:25 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-16 20:39 ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-16 20:43 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-16 22:17 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-17 2:18 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-17 2:39 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-06-17 22:11 ` Dale Amon
2007-06-16 21:06 ` Dale Amon
2007-06-16 14:53 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 9:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-06-18 9:54 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-18 10:13 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 14:01 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 16:16 ` alan
2007-06-18 17:29 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 17:33 ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 20:30 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 20:50 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-06-18 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-04 17:32 ` Erik Mouw
2007-07-04 20:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-05 17:55 ` Erik Mouw
2007-07-05 13:57 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-05 14:23 ` Chris Mason
2007-07-05 17:57 ` Erik Mouw
2007-06-18 15:32 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-18 23:18 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-09-29 17:44 ` Sorin Faibish
2007-06-18 15:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-18 16:37 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-18 16:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 17:56 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-19 3:10 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-19 7:49 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 7:58 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-06-20 2:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-19 9:09 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-06-19 16:52 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-06-15 22:52 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-16 8:25 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 18:03 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 19:06 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:03 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:08 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:15 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:27 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:34 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 20:38 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-19 21:02 ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 19:12 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 19:22 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:10 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-19 20:14 ` Jack Stone
2007-06-19 20:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-20 8:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-06-19 21:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-19 22:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 8:05 ` Ph. Marek
2007-06-19 20:43 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-19 22:07 ` david
2007-06-19 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 23:07 ` Jan Harkes
2007-06-19 23:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 22:21 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-19 23:35 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-20 0:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-06-20 5:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 17:04 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-06-20 17:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 17:33 ` Chris Snook
2007-06-15 22:57 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-15 23:01 ` alan
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2007-06-18 20:54 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-06-18 21:08 ` alan
2007-06-18 21:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 21:34 ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 22:10 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 22:26 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-18 21:24 ` Brad Boyer
2007-06-19 3:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-18 22:34 ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 22:56 ` alan
2007-06-19 7:01 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-18 22:48 ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-18 23:00 ` alan
2007-06-19 7:05 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-19 16:52 ` Jeremy Allison
2007-06-19 16:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-18 22:47 ` alan
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