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* paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files
@ 2007-06-18 12:34 Tomas M
  2007-06-19 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2007-06-20 18:29 ` Tomas M
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tomas M @ 2007-06-18 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-fsdevel

Good morning.
I'd like to kindly offer a paid job to someone interested. I'm willing 
to pay $500 for it, nevertheless I'm open to all suggestions. I hope 
it's OK to post this offer here.

I'd like to see some features implemented in VFAT filesystem, which 
would be available per a mount option, for example:
    mount -t vfat -o unix /dev/hda1 /mnt

There has been many attempts to implement some of these features in vfat 
lately, while no implementation actually made it's way to Kernel. Umsdos 
was removed from kernel as well (which was a good idea indeed).

I agree that people shouldn't use VFAT at all :) as there are many 
filesystems for Linux which are more suitable for day-to-day work.
But the amount of attempts to enhance vfat shows that many people really 
need some (even limited) improvements to vfat for some purpose.

So here is what I need:

- special file support (symlink,pipe,fifo,socket,c devs,b devs)
- executable / not executable bit
Nothing more is needed at all.

I believe there is some spare space in the VFAT structure to implement 
these easily. I believe we just need one single byte, I would use lcase 
char, while the other infos (eg. major/minor numbers, link target, 
etc..) would be stored inside the particular special file (so not in the 
metadata). But your implementation is up to you, of course.

Requirements:

- The code must be clean so it could possibly be included in Kernel, 
nevertheless it's not required to be accepted by kernel people - they 
sometimes tend to reject interesting stuff, this is something I can live 
with :)

- The filesystem must be perfectly readable in Windows.

- All files created in Windows (or in Linux without the mount option) 
should appear as a regular non-executable files in Linux after the mount 
option is used.

Payment:

As noted at the top of this message, I'm willing to pay $500 to the 
developer of these changes. I don't know how easy/hard would it be do 
implement, so if you say why the price should be bigger, I'll reconsider 
it. I believe it's a fair offer.

Payments are possible by paypal, wire transfer or money in the envelope.

If you are willing to develop requested changes, let me know please, 
I'll wait till 19th of January for answers and then I'll post a message 
to the list who will do it (if somebody is found).

Thank you very much

Tomas M
slax.org

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* Re: paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files
  2007-06-18 12:34 paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files Tomas M
@ 2007-06-19 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2007-06-19 12:58   ` Jan Engelhardt
  2007-06-19 14:06   ` Tomas M
  2007-06-20 18:29 ` Tomas M
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2007-06-19 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomas M; +Cc: linux-fsdevel

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On Jun 18 2007 14:34, Tomas M wrote:
>
> Good morning. I'd like to kindly offer a paid job to someone
> interested. I'm willing to pay $500 for it, nevertheless I'm open
> to all suggestions. I hope it's OK to post this offer here.
>
> I'd like to see some features implemented in VFAT filesystem, which
> would be available per a mount option, for example:
>
>   mount -t vfat -o unix /dev/hda1 /mnt
>
> There has been many attempts to implement some of these features in
> vfat lately, while no implementation actually made it's way to
> Kernel. Umsdos was removed from kernel as well (which was a good
> idea indeed).
>
> I agree that people shouldn't use VFAT at all :) as there are many
> filesystems for Linux which are more suitable for day-to-day work.
> But the amount of attempts to enhance vfat shows that many people
> really need some (even limited) improvements to vfat for some
> purpose.
>
> So here is what I need:
>
> - special file support (symlink,pipe,fifo,socket,c devs,b devs)
> - executable / not executable bit
> Nothing more is needed at all.

Does a FUSE fs cut it? Trying to hide Unix fluff inside VFAT
structures is an evil thing (“What Would Windows Do?”),
so the UMSDOS approach seems fine enough. I've almost got a working
implementation, just needs actual testing.

> I believe there is some spare space in the VFAT structure to
> implement these easily. I believe we just need one single byte, I
> would use lcase char, while the other infos (eg. major/minor
> numbers, link target, etc..) would be stored inside the particular
> special file (so not in the metadata). But your implementation is
> up to you, of course.
>
> Requirements:
>
> - The code must be clean so it could possibly be included in
> Kernel, nevertheless it's not required to be accepted by kernel
> people - they sometimes tend to reject interesting stuff, this is
> something I can live with :)
>
> - The filesystem must be perfectly readable in Windows.
>
> - All files created in Windows (or in Linux without the mount
> option) should appear as a regular non-executable files in Linux
> after the mount option is used.
>
> Payment:
>
> As noted at the top of this message, I'm willing to pay $500 to the
> developer of these changes. I don't know how easy/hard would it be
> do implement, so if you say why the price should be bigger, I'll
> reconsider it. I believe it's a fair offer.
>
> Payments are possible by paypal, wire transfer or money in the envelope.
>
> If you are willing to develop requested changes, let me know
> please, I'll wait till 19th of January for answers and then I'll
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> post a message to the list who will do it (if somebody is found).
>
> Thank you very much


Please don't name my name.



Thanks,
	Jan
-- 

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* Re: paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files
  2007-06-19 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2007-06-19 12:58   ` Jan Engelhardt
  2007-06-19 14:06   ` Tomas M
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2007-06-19 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tomas M; +Cc: linux-fsdevel


On Jun 19 2007 14:55, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> If you are willing to develop requested changes, let me know
>> please, I'll wait till 19th of January for answers and then I'll
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>> post a message to the list who will do it (if somebody is found).
>
>
>Please don't name my name.

(Today, I'm hating my MUA for cc'ing even though I said "Y" to "reply to all?")

Well, stick to it anyway.



	Jan
-- 

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* Re: paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files
  2007-06-19 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
  2007-06-19 12:58   ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2007-06-19 14:06   ` Tomas M
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tomas M @ 2007-06-19 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jan Engelhardt, linux-fsdevel

>> I'll wait till 19th of January for answers and then I'll
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh that is incorrect, it should say '19th of Jun' of course :)

> Please don't name my name.

Ok, no problem :)


Regarding the unix fluff inside VFAT, I agree this is something bad, 
maybe very bad, but from time to time, some people really need it.

I need it so I'm willing to pay some little money for it, others don't 
have to use it, of course :)

Regarding the FUSE ... I think it may work for me as well, but is there 
any code for FUSE to implement what I need for VFAT? I searched google 
but didn't find anything.

Thank you

Tomas M



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* Re: paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files
  2007-06-18 12:34 paid work: vfat symlinks, attributes and special files Tomas M
  2007-06-19 12:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2007-06-20 18:29 ` Tomas M
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tomas M @ 2007-06-20 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-fsdevel

 > If you are willing to develop requested changes,
 > let me know please, I'll wait till 19th of January for answers
 > and then I'll post a message to the list who will do it
 > (if somebody is found).

So it seems nobody is interested.
Never mind, I give up. Thank you anyway :)

Tomas M


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