From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
List util-linux-ng <util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:03:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <468D78BE.4030902@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070704084211.GA19128@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:11:56AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
>> The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system
>> supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS,
>> SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file
>
> And this is really dumb. autotools is a completely pain in the ass and
> not useful at all for linux-only tools.
A myth. It is quite useful for packagers, because of the high Just
Works(tm) factor. After porting an entire across several revisions of a
distro, the autotools-based packages are the ones that work out of the
box 90% of the time.
The other 90% of _my_ time comes from annoying people who roll their own
Makefile/build solution, which the packager has to then learn.
It's just not scalable for people to keep building their own build
solutions.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-05 23:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-03 22:11 [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1 Karel Zak
[not found] ` <20070703221156.GY14825-CxBs/XhZ2BtHjqfyn1fVYA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-04 8:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20070704084211.GA19128-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-04 10:34 ` David Miller
2007-07-05 16:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-05 18:04 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <200707051242.00625.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-05 21:30 ` Karel Zak
2007-07-06 0:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-07-05 23:03 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-07-06 9:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-07-06 9:16 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <468E04D3.6080002-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-06 19:35 ` Joel Becker
[not found] ` <20070706193514.GO17650-bJAWT7hdKawdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-09 7:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-07-09 20:18 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-04 11:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-05 17:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-04 17:47 ` DervishD
2007-07-05 7:01 ` Nix
[not found] <8CYT9-4Ou-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8Dh9k-8lT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8DtDz-3xC-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-05 14:50 ` Bodo Eggert
[not found] ` <E1I6SfW-0002XG-AM-xEIfeyfbjTc@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-05 19:20 ` DervishD
2007-07-05 20:42 ` Nix
[not found] ` <87vecyeg5y.fsf-x0esd30BCtidcjFyoUV/Pg@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-05 20:55 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-06 6:42 ` Nix
[not found] ` <87zm2aav9h.fsf-x0esd30BCtidcjFyoUV/Pg@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-06 7:19 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <200707060319.36460.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-06 22:43 ` Nix
2007-07-06 6:41 ` DervishD
2007-07-06 7:17 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <200707060317.35177.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-06 10:43 ` DervishD
2007-07-06 12:17 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-06 12:51 ` DervishD
2007-07-05 20:36 ` Nix
2007-07-05 21:30 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-05 21:34 ` Nix
[not found] ` <878x9ucz6v.fsf-x0esd30BCtidcjFyoUV/Pg@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-05 21:47 ` Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <200707051730.25776.vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-06 0:30 ` Bryan Henderson
2007-07-06 1:16 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-06 16:50 ` Bryan Henderson
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