From: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] [RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem.
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:39:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <476724E3.6060901@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071218003955.GA27048@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>
I hate to bring this again, but what if the admin in the container
mounts an external file system (eg. nfs, usb, loop mount from a file,
or via fuse), and that file system already has a device that we would
like to ban inside that container ?
Since anyway we will have to keep a white- (or black-) list of devices
that are permitted in a container, and that list may change even change
per container -- why not enforce the access control at the VFS layer ?
It's safer in the long run.
Oren.
Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Tetsuo Handa (penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp):
>> Hello.
>>
>> Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>> CAP_MKNOD will be removed from its capability
>> I think it is not enough because the root can rename/unlink device files
>> (mv /dev/sda1 /dev/tmp; mv /dev/sda2 /dev/sda1; mv /dev/tmp /dev/sda2).
>
> Sure but that doesn't bother us :)
>
> The admin in the container has his own /dev directory and can do what he
> likes with the devices he's allowed to have. He just shouldn't have
> access to others. If he wants to rename /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda5 that's
> his choice.
>
>>> To use your approach, i guess we would have to use selinux (or tomoyo)
>>> to enforce that devices may only be created under /dev?
>> Everyone can use this filesystem alone.
>
> Sure but it is worthless alone.
>
> No?
>
> What will keep the container admin from doing 'mknod /root/hda1 b 3 1'?
>
>> But use with MAC (or whatever access control mechanisms that prevent
>> attackers from unmounting/overlaying this filesystem) is recomennded.
>
> -serge
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-18 1:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20071216080441.435456586@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
[not found] ` <20071216080628.061470932@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2007-12-16 10:44 ` [patch 0/2] [RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 10:56 ` [patch 1/2] " Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-06 15:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 15:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-18 16:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-16 11:21 ` David Newall
2007-12-16 11:26 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:31 ` David Newall
2007-12-16 11:36 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:58 ` David Newall
2007-12-16 12:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 12:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 6:00 ` David Newall
2007-12-18 15:33 ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-16 16:52 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-12-16 19:48 ` Al Viro
2007-12-17 0:40 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 11:44 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-12-17 12:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 13:05 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-17 13:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18 15:22 ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-19 12:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-19 19:14 ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2007-12-17 13:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-17 6:42 ` penguin-kernel
2007-12-17 19:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20071217194802.GA14156-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-18 0:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18 0:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18 1:39 ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2007-12-18 2:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18 3:04 ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-19 9:43 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-12-19 14:10 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-20 0:07 ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-20 7:42 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-12-20 14:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <476A1CE0.30505-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-21 1:47 ` Oren Laadan
2007-12-19 14:13 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18 1:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-18 2:26 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-18 2:53 ` serge
2007-12-18 3:40 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-19 23:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-24 13:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-16 11:03 ` [patch 2/2] " Tetsuo Handa
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