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From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:19:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4799393A.5090605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801242336.00340.a1426z@gawab.com>

Al Boldi wrote:
> Greetings!
> 
> data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this by 
> ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes.  But this sometimes 
> causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain apps, either 
> due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour like db's, as well 
> as inherent starvation issues exposed by the data=ordered mode.
> 
> data=writeback mode alleviates data=order mode slowdowns, but only works 
> per-mount and is too dangerous to run as a default mode.
> 
> This RFC proposes to introduce a tunable which allows to disable fsync and 
> changes ordered into writeback writeout on a per-process basis like this:
> 
>       echo 1 > /proc/`pidof process`/softsync
> 
> 
> Your comments are much welcome!

This is basically a kernel workaround for stupid app behavior.  It wouldn't be 
the first time we've provided such an option, but we shouldn't do it without a 
very good justification.  At the very least, we need a test case that 
demonstrates the problem and benchmark results that prove that this approach 
actually fixes it.  I suspect we can find a cleaner fix for the problem.

	-- Chris

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-25  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-24 20:36 [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode Al Boldi
2008-01-24 21:50 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:34     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-24 21:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  1:19 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2008-01-26  5:28   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-29 17:22     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-30  6:04       ` Al Boldi
2008-01-30 14:29         ` Chris Mason
2008-01-30 18:39           ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31  0:32           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-31  6:20             ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 16:56               ` Chris Mason
2008-01-31 17:10                 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-31 17:14                   ` Chris Mason
2008-02-01 21:26                     ` Al Boldi
2008-02-04 17:54                       ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05  7:07                         ` Al Boldi
2008-02-05 15:07                           ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 19:20                             ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25  6:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-25 21:57   ` david
2008-01-25 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-26  5:27   ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:27     ` Jan Kara
2008-01-28 20:17       ` Al Boldi
2008-02-07  0:00     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-10 14:54       ` Al Boldi

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