From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:19:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4799393A.5090605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801242336.00340.a1426z@gawab.com>
Al Boldi wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> data=ordered mode has proven reliable over the years, and it does this by
> ordering filedata flushes before metadata flushes. But this sometimes
> causes contention in the order of a 10x slowdown for certain apps, either
> due to the misuse of fsync or due to inherent behaviour like db's, as well
> as inherent starvation issues exposed by the data=ordered mode.
>
> data=writeback mode alleviates data=order mode slowdowns, but only works
> per-mount and is too dangerous to run as a default mode.
>
> This RFC proposes to introduce a tunable which allows to disable fsync and
> changes ordered into writeback writeout on a per-process basis like this:
>
> echo 1 > /proc/`pidof process`/softsync
>
>
> Your comments are much welcome!
This is basically a kernel workaround for stupid app behavior. It wouldn't be
the first time we've provided such an option, but we shouldn't do it without a
very good justification. At the very least, we need a test case that
demonstrates the problem and benchmark results that prove that this approach
actually fixes it. I suspect we can find a cleaner fix for the problem.
-- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-25 1:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-24 20:36 [RFC] ext3: per-process soft-syncing data=ordered mode Al Boldi
2008-01-24 21:50 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:34 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-24 21:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25 1:19 ` Chris Snook [this message]
2008-01-26 5:28 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-29 17:22 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-30 6:04 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-30 14:29 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-30 18:39 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 0:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-31 6:20 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-31 16:56 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-31 17:10 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-31 17:14 ` Chris Mason
2008-02-01 21:26 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-04 17:54 ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 7:07 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-05 15:07 ` Jan Kara
2008-02-05 19:20 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-25 6:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-01-25 21:57 ` david
2008-01-25 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-26 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2008-01-28 17:27 ` Jan Kara
2008-01-28 20:17 ` Al Boldi
2008-02-07 0:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-02-10 14:54 ` Al Boldi
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